Swedish Women Troops Want Combat Bra

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Swedish Women Troops Want 'Combat' Bra

Australian Associated Press



Swedish female soldiers are demanding the military provide them with combat-tested bras, amid complaints that the sports bras they must buy themselves unhook too easily, officials say.

Unlike their male counterparts who are provided with military-issue underwear, Sweden's 500-odd women conscripts must buy bras themselves since there are no military-issue brassieres, according to the Council of Conscripts, a union-like organisation.

"The women have had to buy sports bras instead. But they are not tested for combat situations nor for fire safety, and they are not functional. They unhook too easily," Council spokeswoman Paulina Rehbinder told AFP.

She criticised the military for its lack of gender equality, in a country widely considered a pioneer in the field.

"This sends a signal to women. You should be able to come to your workplace and be provided with equipment that works and that is safe," she said.

"There have been women in the Swedish military for more than 30 years but bras have never been provided by the military," she lamented, noting however that the military gave conscripts money to buy their bras.

But things look set for a change.

With between 800 and 1,000 women expected to become conscripts next year, the military is now developing a bra that is undergoing testing.

"It's supposed to be ready either later this year or next year," Rehbinder said.

Sweden has allowed women conscripts since 1980. Four to five per cent of Sweden's armed forces are women.

http://www.military.com/news/article/swedish-women-troops-want-combat-bra.html
 

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JJH:

Tempting as it is to come up with a NAAFI Bar response, I will restrain myself. I recall a good number of years ago, when women aboard USN vessels were quite a new thing, that a committee of DACOWITS* met with a number of USN women to discuss uniform issues. One of the issues was flamability of womens uniforms aboard ships.

IMHO, the women have a point about flamability of clothing but there is no such thing as a Nomex bra.


*Defence committee dealing with womens issues
 

maguire

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#4
DavidBOC said:
JJH:

Tempting as it is to come up with a NAAFI Bar response, I will restrain myself. I recall a good number of years ago, when women aboard USN vessels were quite a new thing, that a committee of DACOWITS* met with a number of USN women to discuss uniform issues. One of the issues was flamability of womens uniforms aboard ships.

IMHO, the women have a point about flamability of clothing but there is no such thing as a Nomex bra.


*Defence committee dealing with womens issues
er, are you *completely* sure about that?

http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/item-1401-2BKOOL-NOMEX-SPORTS-BRA
 
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maguire said:
DavidBOC said:
JJH:

Tempting as it is to come up with a NAAFI Bar response, I will restrain myself. I recall a good number of years ago, when women aboard USN vessels were quite a new thing, that a committee of DACOWITS* met with a number of USN women to discuss uniform issues. One of the issues was flamability of womens uniforms aboard ships.

IMHO, the women have a point about flamability of clothing but there is no such thing as a Nomex bra.


*Defence committee dealing with womens issues
er, are you *completely* sure about that?

http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/item-1401-2BKOOL-NOMEX-SPORTS-BRA
Maguire:

I am impressed. It took you but 14 minutes to come up with that. Given that speed, it does, however, make one wonder a bit about what you are usually looking up on the internet. :D
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
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jumpinjarhead said:
maguire said:
DavidBOC said:
JJH:

Tempting as it is to come up with a NAAFI Bar response, I will restrain myself. I recall a good number of years ago, when women aboard USN vessels were quite a new thing, that a committee of DACOWITS* met with a number of USN women to discuss uniform issues. One of the issues was flamability of womens uniforms aboard ships.

IMHO, the women have a point about flamability of clothing but there is no such thing as a Nomex bra.


*Defence committee dealing with womens issues
er, are you *completely* sure about that?

http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/item-1401-2BKOOL-NOMEX-SPORTS-BRA
Maguire:

I am impressed. It took you but 14 minutes to come up with that. Given that speed, it does, however, make one wonder a bit about what you are usually looking up on the internet. :D
the list of websites in my favourites is long and perverted. :oops:
 
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maguire said:
jumpinjarhead said:
maguire said:
DavidBOC said:
JJH:

Tempting as it is to come up with a NAAFI Bar response, I will restrain myself. I recall a good number of years ago, when women aboard USN vessels were quite a new thing, that a committee of DACOWITS* met with a number of USN women to discuss uniform issues. One of the issues was flamability of womens uniforms aboard ships.

IMHO, the women have a point about flamability of clothing but there is no such thing as a Nomex bra.


*Defence committee dealing with womens issues
er, are you *completely* sure about that?

http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/item-1401-2BKOOL-NOMEX-SPORTS-BRA
Maguire:

I am impressed. It took you but 14 minutes to come up with that. Given that speed, it does, however, make one wonder a bit about what you are usually looking up on the internet. :D
the list of websites in my favourites is long and perverted. :oops:
I never thought otherwise--I mean this is ARRSE after all.
 
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:? How can a bra unhook "too easily"? I can't say I've ever found this to be a problem. A typical feminist perspective that takes no account of the male needs :evil:

[mutter, mutter ... make up their ruddy minds ... first they want to burn their bras, and now they don't ...]

It seems as though the Swedes may have other equipment problems, though, of a slightly more fundamental nature http://www.thelocal.se/22886/20091026/
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
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'Swedish soldiers forced to train in soleless boots'

blimey - they're treading on dangerous ground there.
 
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Excognito said:
:? How can a bra unhook "too easily"? I can't say I've ever found this to be a problem. A typical feminist perspective that takes no account of the male needs :evil:

[mutter, mutter ... make up their ruddy minds ... first they want to burn their bras, and now they don't ...]
:D

You'd have to be a fudge packer not to smash her.
 
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Its right though the blokes get combat boxers there aren't any combat knickers or bras.
 
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Excognito said:
:? How can a bra unhook "too easily"? I can't say I've ever found this to be a problem. A typical feminist perspective that takes no account of the male needs :evil:

[mutter, mutter ... make up their ruddy minds ... first they want to burn their bras, and now they don't ...]

It seems as though the Swedes may have other equipment problems, though, of a slightly more fundamental nature http://www.thelocal.se/22886/20091026/
Got to love this line, was she really thinking when she said this?

According to Nina Enocsson with the Swedish Conscription Council

“The Armed Forces give priority to overseas units and overlook the conscripts, it’s just easy to blow them off,” she told the Svenska Dagbladet (SvD) newspaper.

But ONE set of kit and knackered secondhand boots, even for conscripts is a bit iffy eh?
 
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A whole new meaning! :D
 
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jumpinjarhead said:
Swedish Women Troops Want 'Combat' Bra

Australian Associated Press



Swedish female soldiers are demanding the military provide them with combat-tested bras, amid complaints that the sports bras they must buy themselves unhook too easily, officials say.

Unlike their male counterparts who are provided with military-issue underwear, Sweden's 500-odd women conscripts must buy bras themselves since there are no military-issue brassieres, according to the Council of Conscripts, a union-like organisation.

"The women have had to buy sports bras instead. But they are not tested for combat situations nor for fire safety, and they are not functional. They unhook too easily," Council spokeswoman Paulina Rehbinder told AFP.

She criticised the military for its lack of gender equality, in a country widely considered a pioneer in the field.

"This sends a signal to women. You should be able to come to your workplace and be provided with equipment that works and that is safe," she said.

"There have been women in the Swedish military for more than 30 years but bras have never been provided by the military," she lamented, noting however that the military gave conscripts money to buy their bras.

But things look set for a change.

With between 800 and 1,000 women expected to become conscripts next year, the military is now developing a bra that is undergoing testing.

"It's supposed to be ready either later this year or next year," Rehbinder said.

Sweden has allowed women conscripts since 1980. Four to five per cent of Sweden's armed forces are women.

http://www.military.com/news/article/swedish-women-troops-want-combat-bra.html
I was just thinking Back Doors and Smashing - what was the question again?
 
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Take that man's name Sarn-Major! :evil: Her clasp isn't centered! :p
 
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JJH,

I hate to say it, but that same report was on a thread here back in the late Summer.

Did you enjoy the topic so much you felt the need to give it a lap of honour, or are you just now catching up ? :wink:
 
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Stonker said:
JJH,

I hate to say it, but that same report was on a thread here back in the late Summer.

Did you enjoy the topic so much you felt the need to give it a lap of honour, or are you just now catching up ? :wink:
It goes without saying I am a bit slow--septic, from the deep south, Marine, infantryman, parachutist, brain-addled from 40 years of marriage and raising 2 children to adulthood, etc.-I should have known an ARRSER would have picked it up straight away given its critical role in the security of the free world. From some of the posts, however, it appears some did not see it the first time round or (more likely) they forgot it, :D
 

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