Swear allegiance to the Queen??

#2
Oh boy... every 'uman roights lawyer in the country will be licking their vulpine lips.......
 
#5
can everybody say 'inciting racial hatred', won't somebody please think of the foreigners!
 
#7
I wonder what Shami Chakrabarti and her troops will have to say about it!
 
#9
I liked this bit:

"Other proposals are thought likely to include a revamp of Britain's old treason laws, such as sleeping with the wife of the heir to the throne, which is punishable by life in prison."

Didn't Dodi get the death sentence?
 
#10
This government is really scraping the barrell if this is all they can come up with to spin their way out of a failed immigration policy.

If anybody should have to swear publically allegience to the Boss it should be Anthony Wedgewood Benn and those tossers in Parliament like him who whinge about taking their Oath.
 
#11
It's another part of the same 'Britishness' nonsense Broon has been pumping out since he became PM.

We are not American, we don't need to copy their bizarre little rituals. We are British, we drink tea and real ale and cider, we eat crumpets and pies and scones, we moan about the bloody weather even though it's not that bad, we understand irony and are masters of sarcasm, we were the first to not like the French - and we don't need any tacky pledges to do any of that.

A coerced pledge is hollow and insincere, it's an insult to HM and it's just not British. And it doesn't seem to have done those in Parliament a lot of good.

Flying a few Union Flags from public buildings would be just spiffy, though. A flag pole outside every school, I say.
 
#12
.. and the Muslim kids in an inner city sink school are really going to swear alleigance to the head of the Church of England aren't they?
 
#13
"I swear allegiance to the flag of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and to the Kingdom for which it stands. One nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Or,

"I swear allegiance to whatever I see fit so long as I can stay here as long as I like."

Take your pick.
 
#14
If said person swears allegiance then betrays the country by plotting to or actually blowing up part of it, then surely they can be done for treason? I'm not up on law at all so apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick with this.
 
#15
People won't do it. Its a pipe dream and a sh!t idea at that.

The Great Unwashed Will want to protest about it.
The Foreign/Ethnic/Religious Types will tell us its an insult to Islam/Budda/Tom Cruise.
Our very own Sponging unemployed masses will still be in bed unless the ceremony is held at 1410hrs on a wednesday.

Mrs Blair must be standing by to buy a Palace in Dubai if they try and kick this into action!
 
#16
I say bring it on and let's see the Labour Party Conference standing up as one to swear allegiance, first to the Queen and then to St Tony (or have I got the order wrong?) :lol:
 
#17
Galileo82 said:
I wonder what Shami Chakrabarti and her troops will have to say about it!
She's a bit busy at the moment trying to help Simon Mann in his predicament in Black Beach nick........ oh wait a minute...... no she's not. She just remembered that Human Rights and proper treatment in nick don't apply to Brits abroad. Gitmo? no no no, that's different.
 
#18
ottar said:
It's another part of the same 'Britishness' nonsense Broon has been pumping out since he became PM.

We are not American, we don't need to copy their bizarre little rituals. We are British, we drink tea and real ale and cider, we eat crumpets and pies and scones, we moan about the bloody weather even though it's not that bad, we understand irony and are masters of sarcasm, we were the first to not like the French - and we don't need any tacky pledges to do any of that.

A coerced pledge is hollow and insincere, it's an insult to HM and it's just not British. And it doesn't seem to have done those in Parliament a lot of good.

Flying a few Union Flags from public buildings would be just spiffy, though. A flag pole outside every school, I say.
Seconded. Well said! :D
 
#19
Instead of a pledge, they should sit a course that details their rights in life, but tempered with their responsiblities. It would be bolstered by a good dose of good old fashioned British History, where we (unashamedly) breif the kids up on all the good stuff we've done for the planet. The Empire, Normandy, etc.

The Scots can get taught about their heritage as an optional package, so can everyone else. It must be the truth however, and as unbiased as possible.

Sports would also be included, maybe on the weekends or a wednesday "sporty". Healthy body, healthy mind. Rugby, Football etc, all feeding in to county teams, and then feeding our nations pride. The Lions Rugby squad :p

This wouldn't be an optional course, and if you fail you can't claim benefits, pay NIC, or get anything from the country. In essence you'd be a foreigner. It would also require a pass in the English Language, for Wales, NI and Cornwall they can add an optional gaelic, but we're not interested in any language that isn't native to our fine sceptred Isles surrounded by their Wooden Walls.

The British Flag should be flown outside every school and public building. To it's left and right can be flown the Kingdom flags (England, Scotland, Wales etc), and maybe a county flag.

If they want to increase the sense of belonging, then stop dividing the nation with "inclusion" policies.

The immigrants will adapt to us, not vice versa.

At the end of the course, the student could be awarded their certificate of nationality (think something along the lines of our Oath certificat), which entitles them to be British Citizens. And the fringe benefits of British Passports, the Vote and the NHS.
 
#20
Judging by the standard of English our school leavers are achieving, I think there are far more important things this gubbment should be worried about.
Plus can you imagine how the oath would have to be written in order for the chav mongs to understand it.

Oath of Allegiance:

Me, <your name>, sez by da big man upstairs dat, wen I iz leaving skool, I will be cool and not diss Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her kidz an stuff and according to da pigs wot make da law, I will be sweet so's i can claim all da freebies I iz entitled to 'an all, innit. Braaaaaap.
 
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