Swap a multitool ?

#1
I have a little-used Gerber 600 multitool in good condition with nylon pouch.

I would like to swap this for a Leatherman Crunch multitool in decent condition, with or without pouch.

Any interest?

Or if not a Leatherman Crunch, then some other locking plier multitool would be considered.
 
#2
This forum can sometimes be quite handy.

After waiting patiently since Feburary someone has got in touch this week and agreed to swap multitools.

So now I have the Leatherman Crunch that I was after, he will soon have a nifty Gerber 600, and the rest of you have missed out!

All told though, it's been a nice result from this free advert.
 
#3
That's a bugger!

I was after a 600, ;o)

Gadge
 
#5
So you swapped a £59 tool for a £86 tool. Nice. They do say fair exchange is no robbery.

I'm a MUT fan myself especially if they are issued through work.
Unless it's the MUT EOD and people use it to crimp Brit issue dets
 
#6
So you swapped a £59 tool for a £86 tool. Nice. They do say fair exchange is no robbery.

I'm a MUT fan myself especially if they are issued through work.
I offered to pay the postage too, but the other party said it wasn't necessary. Sometimes preference counts for that bit extra and the Gerber is in near mint condition so it seemed pretty fair to me. Besides, it's a free choice with no bullying involved so all things considered it's a fair deal.

It seems to me that this Classified section of the forum is pretty useful.
 
#9
The standard issue is fitted for US Caps, however the company will supply you with a UK Det version if you ask (but I didn't).

However... Have a US smaller calibre and exercise a degree of skill in crimping all dets or get the UK one and find it too big to do US ones. I prefer to have skill than be a kit-monkey.
There are those who know what they are doing and why....................and then there is the rest!

Anyway, since when did you stop using your teeth to crimp dets? :)
 
#13
Poking about a bit it seems that the diameter of the US M7 det is between .24 and .26 inches, and as all good ATs (and the occasional ATO) knows L1 dets have a nominal diameter of 6.5mm, which is .259 inches!

So I can't see that much of a problem - I'm sure it's covered by a STANAG somewhere.. - though I m sure the official line is NO!

I suspect the Brit/US difference rumour may come from the days of 27 dets which were smaller..
 
#14
You hear the old story about Leathermans guaranteed for life and how they will exchange them. Its true, I gave them a knacked Supertool at a show and the bloke gave me a boxed new one with a pouch.....no quibble, no hassle.


The hole on the MUT is smaller to deal with the smaller US det, it really doesn't cause a problem with UK dets, just don't squeeze too hard.
I used to try to minimise my handling of dets, so temperamental.......added to which the ATO was always hovering around paranoid that we'd cause a problem in the playground with them.
 
#15
Poking about a bit it seems that the diameter of the US M7 det is between .24 and .26 inches, and as all good ATs (and the occasional ATO) knows L1 dets have a nominal diameter of 6.5mm, which is .259 inches!

So I can't see that much of a problem - I'm sure it's covered by a STANAG somewhere.. - though I m sure the official line is NO!

I suspect the Brit/US difference rumour may come from the days of 27 dets which were smaller..
US dets are crimped tighter hence the problem.

The photo is of over-crimping due to use of multitools on UK dets resulting in a break in the explosive train in safety fuze and fuze inst or worse if you follow the RAF practice of crimping plain dets to det cord!
 

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#16
Surprised that .009" makes that much difference!

Looking at my Mk 1 ancient black leatherman, the det crimp is a clamshell with a raised centre rib, which will only produce a limited depth crimp. The last UK issue det crimpers I had (about two years ago) were cast iron scissor type ones with no depth stop..

The photo you show looks like it was made with UK crimps not US ones.. admittedly by someone with a Garth rated grip..

And sorry for asking, but Detting Det cord... why - or is the answer "RAF"?
 
#18
The current issue ones are steel and have two flat surfaces in the jaws along with the crimp. This makes it impossible to over-crimp. On the handle side of the hinge is a blunt cutting edge and one of the handle ends in a rectifier.

There was an old tin stamped det crimp in service but being quite flimsy it was easy to distort and easy to over or under crimp. See pic.

The RAF wanted a method of initiating more than one Balldrick or Vulcan at the same time, so instead of using det cord boosters, or multi electric dets, they decided to crimp dets onto det cord!
 

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