Survival Course- what to expect?

#1
Expect the unexpected and all that....

But the question is, what will the unexpected entail? Not got the joining instructions yet, but in advance of those, is there any allowable kit i can take along that might make life a little easier?

The course will be a fairly basic land based one, run by the chaps down at St Mawgan. Any other preperation worthwhile?

Cheers.
 
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cloudbuster

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#2
But the question is, what will the unexpected entail?
If you knew that, it wouldn't come as much of a surprise, would it?

Here's a tip - wait for the JI to drop through your letter-box. Don't even think of hiding stuff up your hoop. They're very thorough........

One other thing; whatever they tell you is going to happen, expect something else. It's called "Dislocation of Expectation". So you won't really be spending time up to your ears in water on Bodmin Moor.
 
#3
Depends on which course you are doing. Are you doing basic land or the land SERE?
 
#5
First rule of survival is PREPARE AND CHECK YOUR PREPARATIONS. I suggest you prepare by sending me £100 for the knowledge I can impart!! Knights of the Army VI form can vouch for me
 
#6
So you are aircrew or relatedly so? I'd surmise, as I've been out a few years now, that's it's a course you'll enjoy immensely. The CSSIC course is held elsewhere and is considerably more intense.

Be fit, keep an open mind and get on with the tasks that you're required to do. Brush up on your navigation skills, if you have allowed these to get rusty. The 'interviewing phase' is what it is, enjoy the debrief. Aircrew and their associated personnel had/have a tailored approach, with a 'Winter' phase held elsewhere. As it's sponsored by the RAF, they have a relatively 'comfortable' learning environment, however, it's physically demanding in it's own way. There may still be a 'sea-rescue' day, where the realities of being in a rubber liferaft for a period of hours before being helioed elsewhere is experienced. All good stuff, enjoy.
 
#7
It sounds interesting! Not aircrew actually, just an interest course more than anything else, with a veiw to then being able to pass on anything gained back to the reg.
 

jim24

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#9
Some smart arse thought it would be a good laugh to throw us out of a Seaking, promising to just do a few circuits and come back and winch us up.they did, 8 hours later, by which time I had had a complete mental breakdown, ( I thought they had lost me) and gone hypothermic, Thank you 824 Sqn and the Crab w@nkers of the Marine section in Portrush
 
#10
Some smart arse thought it would be a good laugh to throw us out of a Seaking, promising to just do a few circuits and come back and winch us up.they did, 8 hours later, by which time I had had a complete mental breakdown, ( I thought they had lost me) and gone hypothermic, Thank you 824 Sqn and the Crab w@nkers of the Marine section in Portrush
Psychological conditioning. It was probably more the sound of the merry-go-'rounds and the donkeys braying on the beach that upset you more. All that candyfloss and kiss me quick hats just out of reach, you big pussy.
 
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Zarathustra

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#12
Psychological conditioning. It was probably more the sound of the merry-go-'rounds and the donkeys braying on the beach that upset you more. All that candyfloss and kiss me quick hats just out of reach, you big pussy.
hahahahaha
 
#13
First rule of survival is PREPARE AND CHECK YOUR PREPARATIONS. I suggest you prepare by sending me £100 for the knowledge I can impart!! Knights of the Army VI form can vouch for me
Indeed. I will vouch for SS. Clearly he has lowered his prices and £100 is a bargain.
(psssst, I'll do it for £95.)

Seriously, check the JIs. Is there a "fit for arduous training certificate?". If no JIs, then you may get asked to sign one on arrival. Either way, this is what we call a combat indicator.
 
#14
I do remember being 'conditioned' by the hunter force before being put OTR for 5 days. That was fun........

And then all that time in a blindfold 'somewhere in Wales'. Was it 48 hours? Was it 10 mins?

I cannot answer that question...................

Are you doing 'survival' or 'combat survival'?
 
#15
I hope you have cleaned your anus, espicially if you get caught as the pineapples can be quite spikey this time of year.....
 
#16
I was sent on this course by my OC some years ago. I didn't really want to go, but I was 'volunteered'. Despite my doubts, I enjoyed the course from the start, and would recommend it for anyone who is fit and a little 'warry' as we used to say.

Still have some notes somewhere, and I was surprised by some of what we got up to.

You can't really prepare very much, except maybe make sure you have a good pair of boots and socks, so just do what it says in the JI and commit to it.
 

AlienFTM

MIA
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#19
If they put you in a stress position and let you listen to white noise and think you can hear snoring above it, don't worry, it isn't your buddies being allowed to sleep while you are in the stress position: they are all in it with you. Neither are the snores those of the goons who were volunteered to escort you to and from interviews ... I mean torture sessions ... I mean interrogations ... it's the DS winding you up to make you think everyone else is asleep and you are the only one suffering. Honest it isn't really, really boring for the goons.

Likewise if you are in an interview - I mean torture - no dammit I mean interrogation - and you hear snoring, if the interviewer - torturer - ffs interrogator goes off on one and starts shouting as if there is an escort behind you and he is bollicking him, it's all a part of his cunning plan to convince you that you are not alone in the room. There really aren't a dozen goons waiting to take you outside and kick seven bells out of you.

Don't expect the goons to talk to you. I got a severe finger-wagging on Ex Trident in 1977 because I drove the OC into the HQ, saw one of my buddies as I dismounted and shouted "AAAAAAAALREET, Rickets?" at him, blissfully unobservant of the fact that the place was crawling with half of NATO's SF that our hunter force had brought in for interview - torture - interrogation. Luckily I don't think any of the captives actually guessed the language so I got away with it.

On another ex at Oberammergau in early 1979 iirc, our brief was that the only time we were to speak to a captive was if he was foolish enough to make a run for it, don't go after him, just shout "Watch out for the razor wire" cos They didn't want valuable aircrew and SF to shred their hands and stop them doing their day job afterwards. None of them did make a run for it. Helped that there was deep snow (well we'd been dragged off Snow Queen to do it).
 
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