Support Staff SASR

#1
Evening all just hopefully after a few answers.
Thinking about joining the TA sasr as a support staff member not a walty character here not expecting to wear the beret by the back door with endless tales of being in the sas etc etc just after gen peoples experiences of being a support staff member of the above and hopefully what this entails as the web is pretty bare of this info want to join the ta but also be at the front helping to make a difference front as be with a front line unit not any answers wou;ld be grateful/
Cheers
 
#2
Phone them up and ask.

msr
 
#3
normalguy said:
Evening all just hopefully after a few answers.
Thinking about joining the TA sasr as a support staff member not a walty character here not expecting to wear the beret by the back door with endless tales of being in the sas etc etc just after gen peoples experiences of being a support staff member of the above and hopefully what this entails as the web is pretty bare of this info want to join the ta but also be at the front helping to make a difference front as be with a front line unit not any answers wou;ld be grateful/
Cheers
I know several people who are support for the TA SAS. They all transferred in from 'normal' units. I don't know if they train their own support staff recruits, I think you might have to join a another unit, do basic training, do trade training, and then transfer later on. You can find this out by asking, as MSR has said.

As for the work the support staff do, I'm not sure that being a chef for 21 or 23 SAS is hugely different to being a chef elsewhere in the TA. Anybody that knows better - pls correct me.

If you're really keen to be in a front line unit, why not join your local infantry unit?
 
#4
they would prefer it if you didnt have a civvy job, they are quite demanding even if your not a blade, even as a member of support sqn you would bet required to tip up all the time so it would help if your civvy job didnt have shifts or weekends in it. and if you havent got a job then no probs, you can work in the week too. and be prepare to travel as were ever the regt go you will go, and if their short on drivers in a troop be prepared to do a little bit more than what you joined for, so your fitness should be good.
 
#5
Thanks for the info much appreciated i have contacted my local unit and had a brief chat, they explained i would need to do 1 weekend a month and 1 night a week so its quite a commitment
Thanks again for the info

Cheers
 
#6
I was offered a chance to apply as a driver for my local SAS(R) unit, as I was too old to attempt Selection. I did'nt take them up on it, as I'd feel a right bloody Walt wearing the sand-coloured beret(yes, I know Support Staff don't wear the Winged Dagger)when the sum total of my SF "service" was driving recruits to and from the training areas.

As far as I'm aware, Support Sqn do not go through any form of SF training.

I'm not knocking the guys in Support Sqn. They do a vital job. But I'd feel like a fraud.

Good luck to you if want to try for it, mate.
 
#7
normalguy said:
Thanks for the info much appreciated i have contacted my local unit and had a brief chat, they explained i would need to do 1 weekend a month and 1 night a week so its quite a commitment
Thanks again for the info

Cheers
That's not a commitment, its non attendance. 3-4 W/Es a month every month that's commitment!
 
#8
Pork_Pie said:
normalguy said:
Evening all just hopefully after a few answers.
Thinking about joining the TA sasr as a support staff member not a walty character here not expecting to wear the beret by the back door with endless tales of being in the sas etc etc just after gen peoples experiences of being a support staff member of the above and hopefully what this entails as the web is pretty bare of this info want to join the ta but also be at the front helping to make a difference front as be with a front line unit not any answers wou;ld be grateful/
Cheers
I know several people who are support for the TA SAS. They all transferred in from 'normal' units. I don't know if they train their own support staff recruits, I think you might have to join a another unit, do basic training, do trade training, and then transfer later on. You can find this out by asking, as MSR has said.

As for the work the support staff do, I'm not sure that being a chef for 21 or 23 SAS is hugely different to being a chef elsewhere in the TA. Anybody that knows better - pls correct me.

If you're really keen to be in a front line unit, why not join your local infantry unit?
Good point. It's also fairly traditional to do the special forces route prior to becoming a chef.

 
#9
1. Opportunities to attend Overseas Training Exercises (OTX's) are likely to be higher in UKSF(R).

* Salisbury Plain, Barry Buddon, Leek v.s. Fort Bragg USA, Belize, Poland, Norway etc.

Some OTX opportunities are only for Sabre personnel but many require support staff.

2. If your personal circumstances allow you to make the commitment, you have a higher 'budget' of Man Training Days (MTD's) to consume, not an upper limit of 27 that requires multiple signatures from 'Grown Ups' to exceed.
 
#10
FrogPrince said:
1. Opportunities to attend Overseas Training Exercises (OTX's) are likely to be higher in UKSF(R).

* Salisbury Plain, Barry Buddon, Leek v.s. Fort Bragg USA, Belize, Poland, Norway etc.

Some OTX opportunities are only for Sabre personnel but many require support staff.

2. If your personal circumstances allow you to make the commitment, you have a higher 'budget' of Man Training Days (MTD's) to consume, not an upper limit of 27 that requires multiple signatures from 'Grown Ups' to exceed.
Fair one. But driving is still driving; all that's gonna change in OTX is the side of the road you're on. No matter how stretched UKSF(R) is, I can't see Support Sqn. drivers being allowed to do anything other than what it says on the tin.

Not knocking the blokes who do it, but no-one should think it's a back-door to SF.

As someone else Posted, if you want to serve on the "front lines", join the Infantry.
 
#11
Thanks for the info lads much appreciated.
Have decided to give it a go hopefully i have something to offer as a support person after speaking to my local unit i have been told to expect 1 weekend in four and one night weekly as a standard as i posted earlier also to expect overseas travel once again thanks appreciated all the comments and also thought if i do something like this am i a fraud? not a walty type or one to say hey look at me beige beret have to say if i do get posted not sure we deserve to wear the same beret without daggers i know. But hopefully my best will be good enough and i will be of some use as a support member
 
#12
normalguy said:
Thanks for the info lads much appreciated.
Have decided to give it a go hopefully i have something to offer as a support person after speaking to my local unit i have been told to expect 1 weekend in four and one night weekly as a standard as i posted earlier also to expect overseas travel once again thanks appreciated all the comments and also thought if i do something like this am i a fraud? not a walty type or one to say hey look at me beige beret have to say if i do get posted not sure we deserve to wear the same beret without daggers i know. But hopefully my best will be good enough and i will be of some use as a support member
The important thing is you have chosen to serve. Good luck to you.

And don't worry about the Beret; if They did'nt think you deserved to wear it, you would'nt be issued it.

In my(limited)experiance, most SF hardly ever wear their beret anyway.
 
#13
Yup beret rarely worn. However I would recommend anyone interested in being SASR support staff; they are very much part of the team and well regarded. Correct that they come under the larger MTD umbrella.
M9
 
#14
mongoose9 said:
Yup beret rarely worn. However I would recommend anyone interested in being SASR support staff; they are very much part of the team and well regarded. Correct that they come under the larger MTD umbrella.
M9
Do the Support Staff ever do Force Protection?
 
#15
FrankCastle said:
I was offered a chance to apply as a driver for my local SAS(R) unit, as I was too old to attempt Selection. I did'nt take them up on it, as I'd feel a right bloody Walt wearing the sand-coloured beret.
you wont wear a beret
 
#16
I'll break it down by Cap Badge

REME - You get to do all the normal REME courses and if you are a mechanic you will get to play with 4 tonners if you are an armourer you will get to play with the weapons that they have (ie deimarcos, sigs etc).

AGC - You will get to do all the normal AGC courses and you will do very little admin (much like a normal TA unit) You are likely to get involved with Ops Room support.

Sigs - All the sigs staff come from 63 (SAS) Signal Sqn which has its own selection procedures.

RAMC - Very high committment. CMTs do all the usual CMT courses but once you have proven yourself, may get the opportunity to do Patrol Medics course. Very good chances of getting on BARTs and BATLS courses. If you are a Doctor in the RAMC, you are again looking at very high committment. This is because of the need to have Doctors and CMTs on every selection weekend.

INT CORPS - High committment, as they like to have some sort of Int imput for a lot of the weekends. Highly likely that you will find yourself on exercises sponsored by DSF and PJHQ. A hell of a lot of time chained to the Ops Room. However, you will get little or no support from 3 MI Battalion, and may struggle to get on trade/career courses

RLC - Drivers are in high demmand, as they are needed for just about every weekend and exercise. You can get your various driving/Hazmat courses etc fairly quickly. You may get trained in advanced off road driving.

All the support staff take part in all the weekends. You may get a tatse of things like fast roping, CQB and sexy weapons, but it will only ever be a taste. Different Squadrons have different attitudes, so you may be lucky and get involved more that some others. At the end of the day, the roles you perform in support are vital, BUT you will only ever be SUPPORTING the Regiment - get it?

As for Berets, you will wear it once a year at the Regimental Photo time (and even then, there is normally someone who has forgotten his!)

Support to UKSF(R) can be a great taster, and many people have used it as a "look see" before attempting selection
 
#17
Hantslad said:
I'll break it down by Cap Badge

REME - You get to do all the normal REME courses and if you are a mechanic you will get to play with 4 tonners if you are an armourer you will get to play with the weapons that they have (ie deimarcos, sigs etc).

AGC - You will get to do all the normal AGC courses and you will do very little admin (much like a normal TA unit) You are likely to get involved with Ops Room support.

Sigs - All the sigs staff come from 63 (SAS) Signal Sqn which has its own selection procedures.

RAMC - Very high committment. CMTs do all the usual CMT courses but once you have proven yourself, may get the opportunity to do Patrol Medics course. Very good chances of getting on BARTs and BATLS courses. If you are a Doctor in the RAMC, you are again looking at very high committment. This is because of the need to have Doctors and CMTs on every selection weekend.

INT CORPS - High committment, as they like to have some sort of Int imput for a lot of the weekends. Highly likely that you will find yourself on exercises sponsored by DSF and PJHQ. A hell of a lot of time chained to the Ops Room. However, you will get little or no support from 3 MI Battalion, and may struggle to get on trade/career courses

RLC - Drivers are in high demmand, as they are needed for just about every weekend and exercise. You can get your various driving/Hazmat courses etc fairly quickly. You may get trained in advanced off road driving.

All the support staff take part in all the weekends. You may get a tatse of things like fast roping, CQB and sexy weapons, but it will only ever be a taste. Different Squadrons have different attitudes, so you may be lucky and get involved more that some others. At the end of the day, the roles you perform in support are vital, BUT you will only ever be SUPPORTING the Regiment - get it?

As for Berets, you will wear it once a year at the Regimental Photo time (and even then, there is normally someone who has forgotten his!)

Support to UKSF(R) can be a great taster, and many people have used it as a "look see" before attempting selection
Good Drills/Post. :D
 
#18
Oh and another thing, if you fancy it you can get your wings, as long as you can pass All Arms P Company. If you do get your wings, you normally get several chances to jump a year.
 
#19
Hantslad said:
Oh and another thing, if you fancy it you can get your wings, as long as you can pass All Arms P Company. If you do get your wings, you normally get several chances to jump a year.
Yeah, that sounds realy easy but I suppose fitness is above par for such units anyway and the motivation would be there...
 
#20
I did a few medcovers with 21/23 on their selection a few years ago.very hospitable mob .medics in the support environs ,are like rocking horse shit.as long as you know your shit and are where you should be ,at the right time.they'll leave you alone.
 

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