Supervisory trades and their future

#1
Here is a question for the more forward thinkers amongst you.

Do the supervisory trades within R Signals have a future beyond Clansman and Ptarmigan in their current guise. (ie YofS, FofS, Radio Sup,IS Sup)

Should there be an amalgamation between the likes of YofS/Rad Sup and FofS/IS Sup.

There you go may the slaughter commence :twisted:
 
#2
We may loose the Techs if some in the Corps get their way and the Techs go off to sunnier parts with the REME.

However,

I think RadSupr will either remain single or go to the Int Corps.

Maybe in the future! YofS and IS Supr. This I think depends on how techy the IS trade eventual get. I can foresee a split in their trade at some point in the future. If this happens I think that you could end up with a split in the IS Supr's. At that point the engineering side might be better off merged to the FofS (if they are still around).
 
#3
I doubt very much we will lose the R Sigs Tech and there is even less chance of changing the FofS, the responsabilities of a FofS are just too wide reaching.

Despite changes to delivery of CIS and the new capabilities it will give us, its managment and installation I think will remain pretty much the same.

I see little changes to the YofS and FofS and would expect to see them as mainstay supervisory trades.

Rad Supvr and the newish IS Supvr (which had been pretty much a secondary role for FofS in the past) are a little more specialist, having a specific role within how a unit operates. These could potentially change and be absorbed, that would be a little negative after all the work that has taken place to establish such roles, which afterall were created for a reason.

If it comes down to money and manpower though HatsRUs could have a point, just how many hats can a Supvr FofS or YofS wear?

The Operator/Installer issue is still alive, the move to BOWMAN and its subsystems could see this come into fruition.

Time will tell.
 
#4
mmm...sounds like a topic for the current IS Supes course.

Move the FofS to the REME, move the Supvr R to Int Corps, move the Supvr IS to Cisco 8O er...let the YofS crack on and act as a super RLD in all regts. (i'm only joking by the way so don't flame me!)

Well, the YofS is multi-talented anyway. If anyone here has encountered Cormorant, then you'll know that the YofS has been relegated to programming the phones, whilst troubleshooting the extremely badly designed software!! And I'm NOT joking this time.

PD
 
#5
Bump...and what's currently playing out? The latest FofS course cancelled, no accreditation for anyone, not enough Techs, too many Operators, can't get them in, can't get them to stay in, who'd have thunk it?
 
#6
Well we’ve surpassed ourselves now, not only have we lost the longest running R Signal institution the White Helmets, we’ve got rid of the Foreman’s course, with no replacement in sight, non of our courses (C3-1) are accredited by an external reputable academic institution, and to top it all off there’s nil technical representation on the delivery teams for any of our future capabilities. At least the RDs are under the cosh for having sod all output!
 
#7
Shiny 20p says R Signals are disbanded a couple of years after the centenary, and get amalgamated with the Int Corps for a new "Information Exploitation" corps (other less clunky names are available).
 
#9
Well we’ve surpassed ourselves now, not only have we lost the longest running R Signal institution the White Helmets, we’ve got rid of the Foreman’s course, with no replacement in sight, non of our courses (C3-1) are accredited by an external reputable academic institution, and to top it all off there’s nil technical representation on the delivery teams for any of our future capabilities. At least the RDs are under the cosh for having sod all output!
Wtf!? :roll:
 
#10
What was the reason given for cancellation of the FofS course?

Edited to add: I should imagine that those who went through the ball ache of entrance exam and selection board only to find the course cancelled will be demanding answers from their CoC. If said answers were unsatisfactory, I'd be saying something like "Sir, going FofS was the major career goal I've been working towards for 8 or 9 years now. If the Corps is going to take that away, then this just became an exit interview".
 
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#11
I’ll try and get this correct. DSCIS sits under DCTT which sits under 22 Gp RAF. Big cost cutting exercise, the FofS Cse was 18 months long so was low hanging fruit. The Sep 18 course was cancelled with a view to a new 12 month course commencing in Feb 19. A new course hasn’t been written yet. Even then it needs to be accredited for the carrot/stick effect as life gets a lot harder there on in.
 
#12
Shiny 20p says R Signals are disbanded a couple of years after the centenary, and get amalgamated with the Int Corps for a new "Information Exploitation" corps (other less clunky names are available).
If the stars align badly, I could see it happening. Since we replaced Ptarmigan and lost all but 2 of our independent Signal Squadrons we don’t seem to get the same quality of Officer through and they can’t compete with their RAF peers. I don’t think it’ll be the last time I use the expression “Sir, how do you think all this magic happens?”
 
#13
If the stars align badly, I could see it happening. Since we replaced Ptarmigan and lost all but 2 of our independent Signal Squadrons we don’t seem to get the same quality of Officer through and they can’t compete with their RAF peers. I don’t think it’ll be the last time I use the expression “Sir, how do you think all this magic happens?”
Care to expand on that?


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#16
The lack of quality officers coming through.


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I didn't say there's a lack of quality officers coming through but you had a lot of quality Officers commanding the Bde Signal Squadrons, that went on to be high quality COs not too many years ago. I would say that we lose a lot of good eggs early on now.
 

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