Supervisor Radio

Discussion in 'Royal Signals' started by wannabe_civvy, Feb 12, 2007.

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  1. This post is gonna cause a lot of agro from the old boys at the back, but isn't it time they did away with the supervisor Radio?
    They swan round the place like they're something special, signing it after their name on e-mails and letters etc like the title makes them a radio god who knows everything there is to know, when in reality all it does is boost them up a rank and condemns them to sitting behind a desk sorting out troop admin for the rest of their careers!
  2. W_C,

    You're hardly likely to be getting splinters in your arrse off that fence now, are you?!

    In a nutshell, I agree with your thoughts on the job, however I may not have worded it quite like that! You're right, some Supvr R do swan around like they're something special, but others are good blokes - the same really as in any job/walk of life, there is always a selection of knobs.
    They are not however, radio gods. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
    Nor are they experts in any field, which begs the question - how can such a short, unspecific, non-specialist course be justified as rewarding them with a step up in rank anyway? (Standing by for incoming!)
  3. This could end up being a very interesting and argumentative thread.

    I'm looking forward to hearing comments on this subject. The replies will only come from non "Broths" as the supervisors in question are probably too busy at their desks.

    Any idea what a "Broth" is ????????????????
  4. You need a fence when you have Supes around....if only to stop the knife.
  5. Okay... here goes....What you have to bear in mind that the title Supervisor Radio is a Corps appointment (just the same as Yeoman of Signals, Foreman of Signals or indeed RQMS) and all are expected to use it in correspondence.

    I agree though that the title is misleading, in no way does it make a Supervisor Radio a 'radio God'. The title is somewhat of a legacy from the 'Cold War' era, when the Supervisor did indeed supervise radio operations from static signals units - clearly this role has just about died out.

    Another point was mentioned about the course being too non-specific. This has been addressed by R SIGNALS SoinC TDT, the course hopefully is now fit-for-purpose in terms of meeting the operational requirement of the 'coal face' as it were.

    The point about sitting behind a desk and doing troop admin is a valid point for those employed at 14 Sigs, however there are lots of other areas of employment (EOD and DSF to name but two) which maybe have more appeal.

    Some of my best friends are Supervisors Radio, but not all of them are knobbers.
  6. Largely an irrelevance since the early 1990's if you ask me. Their demise should have roughly coincided with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yet, like some rogue communist state that refuses to wake up and smell the coffee, they have managed to survive until the present day.

    However, the areas they traditionally oversaw are no longer. And, even when those areas existed, it was, in my opinion, a limited supervisory role: you could count the number of Supvr (R) who could effectively understand and manage voice operators / voice tasking on the fingers of one boxing glove. So, when their nautral habitat went the way of so much Brazilian rain forest, they effectively became supervisors without portfolio.

    There was a "niche" employment slot for them at 14 Sigs (which was N Troop until the early 90's / the move to Osnatraz). However, as was found on the vamp dets, when RTGs / Radio Ops were made det comdrs / operators, it was probably a niche that other tradesmen in the Corps could have filled if required, given the proper training.

    The way things are structured today - at the "coal face" as it's sometimes called - there is much more emphasis on voice, analysis, and reporting - none of which have traditionally been the domain of either the spec op or the Supvr (R). In fact, since the Tele Op (Ling)s were forcibly evicted from the Royal Signals about six years ago, the Corps hasn't even had any voice ops. I'm sure they're all hoping that Soothsayer will save them, but I'm not too sure - the title certainly doesn't fit in my opinion.

    How have they survived until now? Simple - friends in high places. As I said earlier, the Soviet bloc crumbled into so much dust in the early 1990's. Russian linguists aren't being trained any more, and other supervisory roles have moved with the times. So why are we still training Supervisor (Radios)?

    And yes, it does seem a remarkably short course in comparison to the other recognised supervisory roles within the Corps - and especially to the older EWOp / Tele Op (Ling), most of whom have done at least one 18-month degree-equivalent course at DSL.

    That said, have to agree - there is the odd good lad amongst them, just like any other trade group. But, that doesn't mean that it isn't time for them all to go - it is. It's long overdue, in fact.
  7. How have they survived until now? Before the lings were transferred, the 'verb on the kerb' was that EW was the only thing that gave the scaleys their teeth arm status. If that is true, then their friends are in very high places indeed.....
  8. Ok Dr Nick - I shall try and answer (in my opinion).
    Demise - same as the RUSSIAN vx op should have?
    But they adapted yes?
    Why should our focus have been on managing the vx ops?? They were not necessarily the largest section?
    N Troop - cant comment.
    Voice, Analysis and reporting - yes agreed, so A - we have evolved, B - you miss out EOD - a significant focus of our tradegroup - and before anyone says we stole jobs, look at what we are doing there (if you know?)

    Remarkably short course in comparison - totally agreed - would this be due to the fact that a significant chunk of the 'other' supervisory courses are longer PURELY to gain a recognised qualification? (yes this would be nice too - but it IS a nicety).

    18 Month Degree equiv course - this is TRADE not supervisory - VX ops do no supervisory training per se.

    Time for us to go - not as long as we keep evolving (as have numerous other trade groups).

  9. No point in people still harping on about voice ops. Voice is dead, long live data. Terrorists all know that their phone conversations and email messages are all tapped by the NSA and that we (Brits) are in on it. That's why they don't use it anymore. They still use the technology but they have onion rings of PKI, PGP, Steganography, good old-fashioned codewords and so on - more and more layers means more time needed to break it and timeliness of info is vital. If DI(SI) has moved on to NEW electronic warfare - i.e. hitting the bad guys by hacking servers, malicious software, online psyops etc - then good on them. Unless it can all be done by civvies, I dunno (not my line of work, just using common sense).
  10. lah dee lah dee lah! Up the Sup's

    By the way. BROTH is a thick SUP.....

    How many thick Sup's can you name....hehehehehe
  11. How about changing the appt to Supvr EW, or SEW for short?
  12. Yes, "SEW" sounds good. They are used to that. SEWing *********** of their superiors trousers after they have given them a good Wodgering.
  13. Keep them coming, you are well on form today!!!!!
    Just off to SEW my sides up!
  14. :biggrin: Nice one snaggler!

    Good to see the 'combat' trades are out in force again.
  15. Way to go PD! You can't move for enemy tactical 'data' comms in our desert hotspots at the moment. :highfive: