Summer of unrest?

#1
Undercover Guardian investigation reveals plan by English Defence League to hit racially sensitive areas in attempt to provoke disorder over summer.

MPs expressed concern tonight after it emerged that far-right activists are planning to step up their provocative street campaign by targeting some of the UK's highest-profile Muslim communities, raising fears of widespread unrest this summer.

Undercover footage shot by the Guardian reveals the English Defence League, which has staged a number of violent protests in towns and cities across the country this year, is planning to "hit" Bradford and the London borough of Tower Hamlets as it intensifies its street protests.

Senior figures in the coalition government were briefed on the threat posed by EDL marches this week. Tomorrow up to 2,000 EDL supporters are expected to descend on Newcastle for its latest protest.

MPs said the group's decision to target some of the UK's most prominent Muslim communities was a blatant attempt to provoke mayhem and disorder. "This group has no positive agenda," said the Bradford South MP, Gerry Sutcliffe. "It is an agenda of hate that is designed to divide people and communities. We support legitimate protest but this is not legitimate, it is designed to stir up trouble. The people of Bradford will want no part of it."

The English Defence League, which started in Luton last year, has become the most significant far-right street movement in the UK since the National Front in the 1970s. A Guardian investigation has identified a number of known rightwing extremists who are taking an interest in the movement – from convicted football hooligans to members of violent rightwing splinter groups.

Thousands of people have attended its protests – many of which have descended into violence and racist and Islamophobic chanting. Supporters are split into "divisions" spread across the UK and as many as 3,000 people are attracted to its protests.

The group also appears to be drawing support from the armed forces. Its online armed forces division has 842 members and the EDL says many serving soldiers have attended its demonstrations. A spokeswoman for the EDL, whose husband is a serving soldier, said: "The soldiers are fighting Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Iraq and the EDL are fighting it here … Not all the armed forces support the English Defence League but a majority do."

Following the British National party's poor showing in this month's local and national elections anti-racist campaigners say some far-right activists may be turning away from the ballot box and returning to violent street demonstrations for the first time in three decades.

Nick Lowles, from Searchlight, said: "What we are seeing now is the most serious, most dangerous, political phenomenon that we have had in Britain for a number of years. With EDL protests that are growing week in, week out there is a chance for major disorder and a major political shift to the right in this country."

In undercover footage shot by Guardian Films, EDL spokesman Guramit Singh says its Bradford demonstration "will be huge". He adds: "The problem with Bradford is the security threat, it is a highly populated Muslim area. They are very militant as well. Bradford is a place that has got to be hit."

Singh, who was speaking during an EDL demonstration in Dudley in April, said the organisation would also be targeting Tower Hamlets.

A spokesman for the EDL confirmed it would hold a demonstration in Bradford on 28 August because the city was "on course to be one of the first places to become a no-go area for non-Muslims". The EDL has already announced demonstrations in Cardiff and Dudley.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation
 
#2
dangerousdave said:
The group also appears to be drawing support from the armed forces. Its online armed forces division has 842 members and the EDL says many serving soldiers have attended its demonstrations. A spokeswoman for the EDL, whose husband is a serving soldier, said: "The soldiers are fighting Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Iraq and the EDL are fighting it here … Not all the armed forces support the English Defence League but a majority do."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/28/english-defence-league-guardian-investigation
How fucking dare they compare what they do with what we do, shitcunts
 
#3
842 members out of ~250000 regular and reserve members of the armed forces? My maths may be wrong here, but I'm fairly sure that's not a majority.
 
#4
Witnessed the EDL march through Newcastle today and i must admit im very confused as to what they actually stand for. On one hand they claim to be a non-violent group formed to represent and defend traditional English values in a non confrontational mannor. Whilst at the same time being quoted as saying things like 'The soldiers are fighting Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and Iraq and the EDL are fighting it here'. Can anyone shed some light on what i see as a very distasteful organisation?
 
#5
The EDL are just dull uneducated cnuts who think they are Uber Brit. Us sensible right of centre law abiding citizens have nil appetite anywhere in the UK for their nonsense. They are just the last few bits of plankton left over from the Football Firms of the 1970's & 80's trying to stir up trouble. Hope they get the good news and a hard shoeing from Robert at any demonstration. Any Squaddie who joins should be ashamed and I hope that has AGAI 67 action taken against them.
 
#7
Just a summer would be fine... unrested or not?!
 
#9
And no mention of UAF at all then? How can that article be given any credibility at all when it pretends the UAF aren't as big a part of the problem as the EDL?
 
#10
We should all be on the streets rioting at the state our country has become. That article is a load of biased crap. Where was the mention of the UAF who also attend these marches?

And how the feck can you tar all the EDL with the same brush? That is like saying all Muslims are terrorists.

In the this country, we have a right to protest.
 

maguire

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#11
jagman said:
And no mention of UAF at all then? How can that article be given any credibility at all when it pretends the UAF aren't as big a part of the problem as the EDL?
ah, but the UAF are the good guys. :p

if they're anything like some of the ANL bods some of my friends used to hang around with in the early nineties, they're just as bad and equally into the mindless aggro, just telling themselves they have a different justification.
 
#13
I'm glad to see they're calling it the ENGLISH defence league :D Wouldn't want us decent Scots being associated with such trash !!!

Any squaddie involved with these pondlife should be ashamed of themselves !!
 

maguire

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#15
goingsupersonic said:
Cos the UAF are a response to EDL. both are a bunch of cnut, but the EDL unilaterally peddles a message of hatred, while UAF respond.
the ******** element of the EDL would find a lot of wind taken out of their sails if the moderate Muslim community (which we're told by the media, and from my experience I have no particular reason to doubt) would make it clear that all the extremist suicide bomber types have nothing to do with them and dont speak for them. because no matter what side of the media I look I hear very little in that respect. and I'm hoping that the coalition will kick the lunatic fringe of the MCB well into touch as well.
 
#16
goingsupersonic said:
Cos the UAF are a response to EDL. both are a bunch of cnut, but the EDL unilaterally peddles a message of hatred, while UAF respond.
Really??, I suspect they have been going rather longer than the EDL

news item
02/06/07

PROTEST-SAY NO TO THE BNP IN CORSHAM
JOIN PROTEST AGAINST FASCISM SAY NO TO THE BNP IN CORSHAM

meet at Corsham Town Hall Monday 11th June at 5.30pm

Come along to protest at the division, ignorance and intolerance of the fascist BNP

Come along to celebrate Unity, Diversity and understanding
 
#20
From amazing_lobsters post:

"Oh no, it was supposed to be the middle classes (also reported by the Guardian!):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/23/police-civil-unrest-recession"

Going somewhat off-topic, but being prompted by reading through the article. I quote:

"The mass surveillance of people's movements by the automatic number-plate recognition (ANPR) camera network resulted from a policy decision taken by the Association of Police Officers – which has private company status and is therefore not subject to freedom of information requests – went ahead without primary legislation or one word of debate in parliament. "

I was picked up twice in a matter of a couple of days, shortly after this was introduce after trialling, once in Sittingbourne, and shortly after on the M40 going down to London.
In Sittingbourne, I was treated from the outset like a criminal, with two orifices of the law shadowing me as I got out of my car and two police cars parked one in front and one behind me.

Being completely innocent, as shall become apparent, I was sh1tting myself at the blatant show of force (50-odd year old bloke in a crappy Vauxhall Cavalier, two ARMED police persons). It turned out that, as I had bought the vehicle from a guy who had been banned from driving from 3 years (which I knew) but that hadn't actually registered with the fcuking idiots where he had been convicted, they still had him down as the registered driver and were on the lookout for him driving.

So I was treated like a criminal suspect using technology that, effectively, was illegal and therefore unenforceable under law.

I was prepared the second time, however, and when I was pulled over, I was able to laugh and explain the situation. The guy actually shook me by the hand!

I don't live there now, but one of the things that made me leave was the unimagineable pall of oppression hanging over the population in the UK. My hearty best wishes that there is a ray of sunlight, and the edge of the cloud is in sight, for them.

Anybody else suffered under this?
 

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