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Stupid Farmers (SAILSBURY PLAIN)

#1
#2
Heaven forbid that they should do what they like with their own land.
If this Government no longer considers them fit to be part of "new british" society why should they put themselves out to help that society?
 
#3
Inconvenient? Yes. The end of the world? No. If Farmer Palmer wants to play tit-for-tat, perhaps DARD 'administrative delays' will hold back the next round of farm subsidies.
 

Mr_Fingerz

LE
Book Reviewer
#4
It's not just happening on Salisbury Plain, apparently Cambrian Patrol is going to be that little bit more difficult next year for the same reason too.
 
#5
Booty said:
Inconvenient? Yes. The end of the world? No. If Farmer Palmer wants to play tit-for-tat, perhaps DARD 'administrative delays' will hold back the next round of farm subsidies.
I second that, they are out of there depth.
 
#6
asdf2204 said:
Army 'forced to cancel exercises' as farmers revolt over hunt ban

Farmers angry at the imminent ban on hunting with hounds have withdrawn 35,000 acres of land used by the Ministry of Defence for training exercises on Salisbury Plain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...unt24.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/24/ixhome.html
Why don't we just Compulsory Purchase the land from them on reasons of "national defence" and tell them to "pi** off"
Maybe because we are not living in the fecking DDR?
 
#7
Not yet anyway.

Fair play to them, it's about time somebody in Britain took affirmative action about something.

Edited to add:- In the long run any Government that totally alienates farmers generally has bitten off more than they can chew.
While some are probably quite happy with the hunting ban, or at least unconcerned, ballsing about with their money is likely to cheese them off big time. Even in our "modern society" it very bad juju to fall out with the sons of the soil.
 
#10
Well if the government would actually listen to the people in the country instead of the majority in the cities they wouldn't have this problem. Fox hunting has gone on for years and the ocasional fox is well worth the sense of community and social interaction that a 'Hunt' brings to a rural community. It seems that it's fine to sacrafice peoples lives in the towns when the scocial services can't cope but you have to save a fox?

At the end of the day the farmers are only withdrawing the use of their OWN land. It's the only protest left to them. If yoake that right away from them, the ext step is removng everyone's right to say who lives in their own house.
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
#11
asdf2204 said:
Army 'forced to cancel exercises' as farmers revolt over hunt ban

Farmers angry at the imminent ban on hunting with hounds have withdrawn 35,000 acres of land used by the Ministry of Defence for training exercises on Salisbury Plain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...unt24.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/24/ixhome.html
Why don't we just Compulsory Purchase the land from them on reasons of "national defence" and tell them to "pi** off"
Didn't you think before posting this or had you just got back from the NAAFI ?
 
#12
Plant-Pilot said:
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If yoake that right away from them, the ext step is removng everyone's right to say who lives in their own house.
...
Already done I'm afraid. The recent bill that dealt with emergency powers for the government allows them to declare an emergency and, if necessary, confiscate property to provide accomodation where and when required.
 
#13
Well said Hackle. Some people seem to think we live in a police state. Last time I checked this was suppossed to be a free country.

Hurrah for the farmers. Down with the Government and their **** policies.
 
#14
Army 'forced to cancel exercises' as farmers revolt over hunt ban

Farmers angry at the imminent ban on hunting with hounds have withdrawn 35,000 acres of land used by the Ministry of Defence for training exercises on Salisbury Plain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...unt24.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/24/ixhome.html
imho, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Most people on this board and who I know, do not support a ban, for various reasons. However, withdrawing use of the land is only hurting those more likely to support their cause.
 
#16
The main point is that it seems that this government don't consider it unfair for one group to dictate how an other unconnected group has to behave. The people in the towns say how the rural communities have to behave without any realization of the effects that my cause, the Scottish and the Welsh have their own parlements and still have a say in how England is run but without the opposite being the case.

Why can't they see what everyone else sees?
 
#17
Tessa Jowell was being savaged by John Humphries on 'Today' this morning. Asked about the dangers of casinos and gambling, she said that 'people have a right to spend their free time & money as they wish'. Unless they want to spend their time and money on hunting, of course. Fecking hypocrite.
 
#19
scalieback said:
Army 'forced to cancel exercises' as farmers revolt over hunt ban

Farmers angry at the imminent ban on hunting with hounds have withdrawn 35,000 acres of land used by the Ministry of Defence for training exercises on Salisbury Plain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...unt24.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/10/24/ixhome.html
imho, it's a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Most people on this board and who I know, do not support a ban, for various reasons. However, withdrawing use of the land is only hurting those more likely to support their cause.
A perfectly reasonable argument as expressed by you, scalie. What got my 'goat' so to speak was the calls for compulsory purchase of land from farmers who have been allowing its use for training out of goodwill. That sort of talk will only get farmers' backs up, and run the risk of turning a temporary difficulty into permanent obstruction.

Apart from compulsory purchase, I believe the Secretary of State still has powers to obtain temporary access to land for military training, similar to '443' powers in Germany, but for the reasons stated the MOD would be wise to go easy on this.
 
#20
come_to_arrest_the_zulus said:
to be fair the powers of these parliments are limited, especially the Welsh. I think most people see it as a waste of time and money as it cant really do much without approval from westminster
The powers may be limited, but they have a degree of self determination and at the same time the power to decide what goes on in England... but not the other way round.
 

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