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Straw: Guantanamo is American GULAG

Comparing Guantanamo with GULAG Mr.Straw is...

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#4
Nah, the Gulags were WORK camps as far as I can see the residents in Uncle Sam's holiday camp just hang around all day in nice clean orange overalls. Get their feet chained together and send them out into the fields cutting sugar cane and the comparison may have something in it.
 
#5
If they want to find a gulag, they are looking on the wrong side of the Guantánamo wire. But, of course, "fellow travellers" like Straw are willing to ignore the human rights abuses of their "comrades".
 
#7
Guantanamo is within International Law, it's residents are enemy combatants / illegal combatants are they not? Since when do PW's need access to lawyers unless of course they are being charged with war crimes. They will be released when the war they started is over. Given the conduct of some of the guests of the facility, this is something that should be looked at. Terrorism is just another crime against humanity after all.

On the other side of the coin, anyone who abuses prisoners ala Abu Graib should also answer for it and I'm not talking about a few scapegoat toms here.

On a related note, isn't it amazing how many internees are suddenly deciding thet being British isn't so bad after all. It seems they lack the courage of their terrorist convictions.
 
#8
The GULAG didn't start out as work camps. Weirdly they were turned into that after an inmate (forget his name but it's all in Anne Applebaum's book) who'd been imprisoned for capitalist acitivity (or some charge like that) wrote a letter suggesting that they should start using the prisoners as labour.

He was amnestied and appointed to the camp administration. Which, oddly enough, was fairly common in the Soviet system - go in as a prisoner and work your way up to guard.
 

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