Strategic, long-range cannon.

When long range heavy guns are discussed many people might think about Gerald Bull’s 'Super Gun’. A project for Saddam Hussein that cost him his life when he was assassinated to prevent him completing project ‘Babylon', a series of super guns. His earlier GC-45’s and subsequent variants were highly successful long range artillery pieces

The Canadian artillery expert initially made a name for himself with Project HARP or High Altitude Research Project a joint research collaboration between the US DoD and Canada's Department of National Defence studying the ballistics of re-entry vehicles at low cost. The third and final 16-inch gun at the test site in Yuma Arizona fired a 400lb Martlet round at 7,000 ft/sec 590,000ft into space.

"Baby Babylon” the prototype was a fixed horizontally mounted device set up on a hillside at a 45 degree angle. the 350mm barrel was 151ft and weighed 102 tonnes and fired lead projectiles around 460 miles.

The second "Big Babylon", of which a pair were planned, was much larger. The barrel was to be 512 feet with a 1mtre bore and 300 ft long. The complete device estimated to weigh about 2,100 tonnes, the barrel alone 1,655 tons was intended to shoot projectiles into orbit then using terminal guidance onto the intended target. It was never finished as various pieces being made in several countries were seized during the Gulf War. Several barrel sections seized by UK customs officers are displayed in various sites around the UK, Royal Armouries, Fort Nelson, Royal Artillery Woolwich.

Now the US ArmyThe U.S. Army is undertaking a major science and technology development project to build a strategic, long-range cannon that can shoot a projectile 1,000 nautical miles.
 
Why, really really why. I can think of a lot of reasons against and none for. Makes you wonder if the Military Industrial Complex Conspiracy theorists aren't at least a little bit right. Still we're a first rate military power [:rofl:] so if there's one going we should have one. Now who to point it at.
 
Why, really really why. I can think of a lot of reasons against and none for. .
Simple answer - cost. Compare it to deploying a carrier group, a squadron of aircraft or a submarine with cruise missiles.
 

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Simple answer - cost. Compare it to deploying a carrier group, a squadron of aircraft or a submarine with cruise missiles.
Also, easily targeted
 

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Simple answer - cost. Compare it to deploying a carrier group, a squadron of aircraft or a submarine with cruise missiles.
The lauch tube might be relatively cheaper, however the guided munitions will not be
 
Simple answer - cost. Compare it to deploying a carrier group, a squadron of aircraft or a submarine with cruise missiles.
The size of mounting needed to hoick a one metre calibre shell, even a rocket-assisted one, to that range would be about the size of an aircraft carrier anyway. And I don't think you'd be able to hide the thermal image of firing, not twice anyway. If you want something that nasty to go that far, use a cruise missile.
 
Simple answer - cost. Compare it to deploying a carrier group, a squadron of aircraft or a submarine with cruise missiles.
Then compare it with the cost of a missile, cruise or ballistic. Oops.
 
What about the one the Germans built near Wissant
that thing could hit London ?
How accurate is this thing


These you mean Dover in the Crosshairs – Hitler’s Four-Year Artillery Bombardment of Southern England - MilitaryHistoryNow.com
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German gun emplacements like this hurled hundreds of shells across the English Channel during World War Two. (Image source: German Federal Archive)

German gun emplacements like this hurled hundreds of shells across the English Channel during World War Two. (Image source: German Federal Archive)




One of the many high-calibre guns near Calais. (Image source: WikiCommons)

"Between 1940 and 1944, some of the heaviest artillery in the Axis arsenal hurled salvo after salvo of high explosive shells at England’s southeastern coast. Britain responded in kind. The ensuing long-range duel raged intermittently for more than four years, killing hundreds. Yet to this day, the fight for control of the English Channel remains one of the lesser-known chapters of World War Two."
"The guns ranged in size from comparatively “light” 8-inch cannons capable of lobbing explosives up to 33 kilometres, to massive 16-inch radar-controlled weapons, which could hurl one-ton projectiles more than 50 kilometres."
 
I ask the same question, why is it necessary to build one. Where are they building the launch site, even a 1,000 mile range is fairly limited, sited in the states they target Mexico & a bit of Canada, will any country in Europe allow it to be sited there with it's limited arc of fire to the East? As Gluteus said earlier it would be easily targeted for a retalliation bombardment using proper missiles.
 
As was mentioned in the attached articles a number of the above questions were addressed.

The Strategic Long-Range Cannon (SLRC) would use a cannon barrel to launch artillery shells with built-in rocket boosters that ignite in mid-air. Since the cannon is reusable, this should be significantly cheaper than using one-shot rockets for every phase of flight.

Lower price per shot, allows taking out larger numbers of lightly protected targets such as truck-borne missile launchers, radar antennas, and mobile command posts.

It’s range and cost designed to fall between the Precision Strike Missiles and the Future Hypersonic Missile programs.

It is still very much in its embryonic stage and no doubt teams of imminently technically qualified people will be working towards answering the various concerns and doubts posed by the ARSE experts.
 
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I don't know how cost-effective these bits of ordnance would be. The Paris Gun in 1918 used to fire shells about 68 miles at the city and had to have a sequentially numbered set of 65 shells, each bigger then the last to allow for bore erosion. After #65 was sent, the whole barrel had to be re-lined.
 

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