Strange aircraft over Northumberland

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  1. Don't know if anyone can help but i have been trying to find out what type of aircraft was 'dog fighting' with a Tornado over Northumberland last week.

    I have only just joined this forum (specifically to find out what it was) and cannot fugure out how to post a picture yet. It was larger than the Tornado and had a very similar look to a Gulfstream Jet. It was BLACK and the tornado tracked it for about 15 minutes before the headed out to sea adjacent to Boulmer RAF Station. I have 4 independent witnesses who were present at the time.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Please post a picture of your current squeeze in the buff and then ask the same question in the Military section of www.pprune.com.
     
  3. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Take no notice of the embittered Crab.

    Hi, and welcome to ARRSE. By a spooky coincidence I run the 'ARRSE AREA 51' sub group and we have noted many incidents of Tornadoes doing dog-fights with unidentified cigar shaped flashing objects over land owned by my client UK Coal Surface Mines.

    Do you have photographs of the black ship?
     
  4. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    I wait [probably forever] for the photo.

    It may be the 22 SAS high-speed Parachutist Insertion Biz-Jet, being 'escorted' rather than 'fought with'. I'm not allowed to say any more for obvious reasons.
     
  5. I suspect the aircraft you saw was most likely a Flight Refuelling Aviation (FRA) Falcon.

    FRA have provided Electronic Warfare (EW) training under contract for RAF fast jets, AWACS and Ground Control Intercept radar crews for many years. Whilst the Falcon most certainly wouldn’t have been ‘dogfighting’, it is common for FRA jets to be flying in formation at the conclusion of a training serial. Moreover, FRA Falcons are painted dark blue underneath and may therefore have appeared black to you. They will often fly with a small ‘missile’ type store under each wing which are EW threat simulator pods.

    Regards,
    MM
     
  6. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    I'm guessing you do not live in Northumberland, yes?

    Have a look here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/474855.stm

    Ten years ago (RIP to the dead). It crashed onto fields belonging to chums of mine.

    A guy called Ian Ferney, who owned a guest house in the area, just North of Belsay and take a left, swore blind he saw a small jet plane alongside the Tornado just before it ploughed into the field.

    A couple of years later, Ian, an experienced diver, drowned on a holiday dive in Turkey.

    Hmmmm.
     
  7. My fat gay Tonka driving friend confirms that MM is, as ever, correct.

    The spotter.
     
  8. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    MM has set me straight on mis-sightings of aircraft in the past, and I would trust his word.

    But there is some right funny planes buzzing about up here on the moors. Just saying.

    And theres Pixies in them hills. And it baing be right thou saying there baint.
     
  9. It might have been a weather balloon!! They were all the rage in Jul '47.
     
  10. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Nah. That was just weather baloons. UNLESS....


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  11. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    i see my earlier attempt at humour fell completely flat - I shall crawl away into the woodwork ;-)
     
  12. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    So you should. The 22 SAS high-speed Parachutist Insertion Biz-Jet is no matter for levity. I thought it was a secret? I'd check, but I left my laptop on the train a week last Thursday.

    A grey Toshiba with a small blond girl on a bike as the screen saver. If anybody...
     
  13. Did it look like this?

    This is er, an artist's impression.

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    ;)
     
  14. Elcap,

    This is an FRA DA20 Falcon.

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  15. So it wasn't Bruntingthorpe's Victor, then?