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Still no ovens in the block?

Im Deployed on operations at the moment but these prices are not accurate at all?

Across a range of establishments
Breakfast ~£1.60
Lunch ~£2.20
Dinner ~£2.70

So what you're saying is soldiers are being ripped off?

The food tends to be of poor quality. (As you would expect at that price).
 
Im Deployed on operations at the moment but these prices are not accurate at all?

Across a range of establishments
Breakfast ~£1.60
Lunch ~£2.20
Dinner ~£2.70

So what you're saying is soldiers are being ripped off?
You seem to be getting ripped off for breakfast and dinner...

Are you in a mess or similar where they have passed an extra charge for meals or something?
 

NemoIII

War Hero
You seem to be getting ripped off for breakfast and dinner...

Are you in a mess or similar where they have passed an extra charge for meals or something?

Thats the price across multiple PAYD Junior ranks facilities.

Im not sure if you are quoting daily food charge of a Non - PAYD facility?
 
Im Deployed on operations at the moment but these prices are not accurate at all?

Across a range of establishments
Breakfast ~£1.60
Lunch ~£2.20
Dinner ~£2.70

So what you're saying is soldiers are being ripped off?
Those come out to £6.50 which matches the AFPRB rate of £5.45 plus 20%
If you’re actually getting paid £6.50 per day in the PAYD element then they are the right prices

Originally when PAYD was introduced nobody took into account VAT (of served cooked food as opposed to ingredients)
The AFPRB then later took VAT into account
It would make sense for the published recommendations to be excluding VAT, and the actual allowance to include VAT
 
It's just the plugs which appear to be problematic, IIRC.
They should be issued with kettles, and both the official supplied items and any personal ones people want to use are all subject to electrical testing
Something should be in place to enable tests to be made.
(Noting That new electrical items sold in the UK should be compliant and marked as such, which would permit a reasonable regime to allow a soldier to plug in a brand new item whilst awaiting testing if the sites arrangements get around to it)
 
They should be issued with kettles, and both the official supplied items and any personal ones people want to use are all subject to electrical testing
Something should be in place to enable tests to be made.
(Noting That new electrical items sold in the UK should be compliant and marked as such, which would permit a reasonable regime to allow a soldier to plug in a brand new item whilst awaiting testing if the sites arrangements get around to it)

I seem to recall the last time this was brought up on here that someone didnt have to check it, but the Army was being over zealous as per usual.
Although in some units it was a trained electrician who checked it and in others it was private bloggs who had half an afternoon lesson on electrical safety.
 

sirbhp

LE
Book Reviewer
but is the food shite or good quality for the money / I couldn't cook my daily meals for £6.50 ex vat or plus vat
 
They should be issued with kettles, and both the official supplied items and any personal ones people want to use are all subject to electrical testing
Something should be in place to enable tests to be made.
(Noting That new electrical items sold in the UK should be compliant and marked as such, which would permit a reasonable regime to allow a soldier to plug in a brand new item whilst awaiting testing if the sites arrangements get around to it)

Whoosh.
 

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer
but is the food shite or good quality for the money / I couldn't cook my daily meals for £6.50 ex vat or plus vat
No vat on food.*Every cloud.



*Food you buy in shops to cook that is.
 
For permanent accommodation (X & Y have different entitlements) you should be provided with:

Microwave
Fridge
Kettle (or hot water boiler)
Time limited hobs (Likely that most wont have these due to failure to meet fire regulation, and in a few modern builds they were fitted for but not with hobs

The above should be provided in the ‘kitchenette snack preparation area’.

Toasters are not an entitlement in SLA, but many locations issued them to QMs on request, so there was a perceived entitlement & when I was subject lead I endorsed them making it almost policy to provide them

The ‘cooking in the block’ trial a few years ago in Aldershot brought in ECAB endorsement of additional items such as George Formans and electric woks. This trial was under PAC and sets the fire requirements.
Recently FYB had posts where someone in Larkhill has decided that policy does not apply, with ‘this should not have been sent to this garrison’
It is entirely intended to apply to Larkhill as that is part of PAC and the trial was intended to identify what is suitable for that PFI contract (As PAC holds liability for fire & insures the PAC estate for fire)
Either someone is being a cock in Larkhill or has not bothered to take the actions required to bring their SLA to standard
These extra items are not Army funded, but a list of what soldiers would be permitted to bring in. Units may opt to use their own fundi

Outside of PAC, it has always been up to the local commander to decide what self catering is permitted and what personal items can be used (except for in bedrooms where it is forbidden)
The cooking in the block paper was used as guidance for places outside of PAC

Where there are blanket bans forbidding soldiers from using their own items it only causes them to be hidden and for midnight drunken cooking fires


An edition of Soldier magazine covered when the results of the trial went into army policy, and its referenced in the army healthy cook book.


Its been covered on other threads before, but the DE/DIO/Balfour Beatty Build SLAM (not the cheap and nasty PPP builds) had a cooker with oven, microwave, toasters and kettles in each SLAM corridor. Along with washing machines and driers, free to use. However a lot of sites appeared to have removed these things because of competition concerns from the cookhouse operators, and from over-zealous H&S types who think they knew better that the engineers and architects that designed and built these buildings to high fire safety (and explosion protection) standards.
 
Its been covered on other threads before, but the DE/DIO/Balfour Beatty Build SLAM (not the cheap and nasty PPP builds) had a cooker with oven, microwave, toasters and kettles in each SLAM corridor. Along with washing machines and driers, free to use. However a lot of sites appeared to have removed these things because of competition concerns from the cookhouse operators, and from over-zealous H&S types who think they knew better that the engineers and architects that designed and built these buildings to high fire safety (and explosion protection) standards.
.... and also think they know better then those who have put up the money to purchase and install the white goods, plus ask the questions of what needs to be done in locations where they ‘cannot’ be provided
 

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