Still Being payed after leaving the Army

An old colleage of mine has been in touch and has asked me that, lets say, if the army were still paying him after he'd left, what would be the consequences, how would he repay them and really whats the worst that could happen.

He Left less than a year ago

He wants to join the GGS in germany but is worried that it could effect his chances of getting in.

I apologise for the cloak and dagger approach but I'm not going to be responsible for sending him down the pan.

Any help would set his mind at ease.

The words "Jail, to, thieving, straight, go, you, cnut" spring to mind, although not necessarily in that particular order.
He is probably still on 'Gardening leave' and doesnt realise it
Did your (ahem) "mate" tell anyone other than you about this? For example, his last unit? Or Glasgow?
Tell him to bung it in the highest interest account he can find and not touch it. If they realise and ask for it back, he can give them the capital but they probably can't ask for the interest. If they don't, he's got himself a nice little nest egg.

It's not his responsibility. If someone gives you money, you take it. If they ask for it back, fair enough.
He's not looking to point fingers here or wait for someone to own up and say " yeah it was our fault, keep it" but he wants to know what the consequences are and if he can still join the GGS
Wasn't the amount something of a clue - particularly if the amount was spookily similar to his previous monthly salary?
If your "mate" informed Glasgow of his thoughts and suspisicions, I am sure they would take the neccesary action....

GGS has fcuk all to do with Glasgow though, so it shouldn't be a drama.
Has he been given a P45 by the Army? If not, he's still 'technically' employed by them I think.

Happened to mate of mine in the civil service. He was sacked after 25 years service, but they continued to pay him for 2 years after sacking him. Then they sent him a P45 and the pay stopped and they wrote off the overpayment.

Army and CS Pensions, although non contributary, is in fact deferred pay. Has your mate opted out of, or entitled to a pension? They might be returning his pension contributions in monthly instalments similar to his take home pay, to avoid bumping him up to a higher tax bracket. If he's expecting an army pension at retirement, he might get a shock as he will have had it already at todays value.

Can he get on armynet and look at his pay statements?
bulgingbadger said:
He says that he thought it was a resettlement grant, he received no resettlement although he qualified for it
Tell him to stick to that story. Also him not having a P45 might back this defence up.

Make sure he buys all his mates lots of drinks. Lucky fcuker!

was he owed any leave?
Hey bulingbadger? You seem to be answering the questions on behalf of you (cough) 'mate' quite quickly. Me thinks you and he/she are the same person.........sneaky sneaky!

Shhhhhhh......your secret is safe with me.
bulgingbadger said:
opsec old bean, but he is on the end of the skype phone
So why doens't he just join ArRSe and tap the reletive wealth of knowlede?
chocolate_frog said:
bulgingbadger said:
opsec old bean, but he is on the end of the skype phone
So why doens't he just join ArRSe and tap the reletive wealth of knowlede?
ChoclitFrog, I'm sure the Chuckle Brothers (yes you two) will be all over this as soon as they log in. I'm more a "Docs and Frocks" person than "Pay is Gay" dude. :wink:
bulgingbadger said:
yeah 30 days, he says either that story or "what money?" lol, he is buying trust me!
Not sure why you seem to be encouraging fraud? If he has been paid money that he hasn't earned there's only one place that comes from and that's the Defence Budget. Admitidly, his overpayment won't even buy a new spanner for Typhoon but there is a principle at stake - particularly since everyone has been jumping on the 'MP Expenses Outrage Bus' so readily.

Your 'friend' should either be prepared to pay the money back or face the consequences. Not sure that the "what money?" line would get you (errrr I mean him) very far becuase in this day and age everything is accountable and traceable.
[quote="The_Snail]ChoclitFrog, I'm sure the Chuckle Brothers (yes you two) will be all over this as soon as they log in. :wink:[/quote]

Well when you send us links to our work e-mail, we're bound to :p

The only saving grace as far as I can see is the lack of P45. Though I would be surprised if this stood up as a defence. There is also, of course, the possibility that your friend recieved his P45, thought it was just another paystatement and chucked it in the draw.

In answer to the question regarding his new employment, It wont effect his chances of getting in, (he already is if no P45 issued) but it will flag up the mistake and recovery will begin.

Writing off debt is not something the Army are good at doing. You need only look at recent procedures brought in for auditing claims, post payment and all the cafuffell caused by Op Bonus overpayments, that have put people in huge debt now to pay it back.

Don't think for one minute that it will be written off, if you don't join up again, you'll probably find your Pension very short for the first few years when your Retire :)

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