Stiff Upper Lip

Whatever happened to the British worldwide reputation for stoicism?
I believe the rot set in with the media-hyped burst of grieving for Diana, and we've gone bloody downhill from there.

There was a time when you shut up and just did your job to the best of your ability. The occasional "OK" or even "Not bad" was all we needed, plus of course repeated "No, not good enough, do it again"

Now we are expected to stand outside our homes and clap the chaps and chappesses (other genders for the seriously confused are available) of the NHS.

Bollocks. They're just doing their jobs. Under difficult circumstances I will admit, but did all the people stand outside and clap when the task force returned from OP Corporate?

What about the other workers who carry on and keep the nation chugging along,

Police
Delivery personnel
Shop staff
Waste collectors
Porn actors
Sewage Workers


In a show of support for these last two, I propose the following.

A Nationwide **** at 7pm on a Friday

followed by

A Nationwide crap at 9pm on the Friday.


Don't forget to wash your hands thoroughly after both.
 

OneTenner

LE
Book Reviewer
Whilst I don't have a problem thanking the NHS and those who are knowingly exposing themselves to harm to do their job and help others, I do rail against the automatic assumption that we will all suffer mental health issues during lockdown. RSI in my right hand - yes; mental health problems (and being 'bored' and 'pissed off' are not mental health issues) no. I feel that mental health anxieties are being bigged up by the worried-well. Our local Resistance Committee (red rags on right biceps, Sten guns at the ready) dropped off inrequested and unannounced a Mental Health work book, where I can record how I feel during the extended lock down (I am 'extremely clinically vulnerable' - but that doesn't stop me doing click and collect on my trade account from local suppliers...and I haven't died yet). The book is full of useful suggestions: keep a diary; record your life, sort out cupboards... and I was tempted to fill it in with banal and worrisome comments such as 'cleaner has finished - now must extend patio'. If that's not bad enough, various 'support agencies' ring me up a couple of times a week to see how I'm getting on...again, that's great, until the killer question arises: 'How are you feeling?'.

Sadly my contract has not been extended...work has completely dried up, but I won't lose sleep over it. I have a good pension and income from a rental property. But when I mentioned it to one of the 'workers' I could sense an excited quiver in her voice as she gleefully asked 'shall I refer you to our specialist team?' and then had the audacity to refer me to the Age UK website benefits calculator (which, to be fair, is quite good - but I am in my 50s).

Anyway, rant over.
 
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The NHS, sorry OUR NHS, has been used to pull on our heart strings to help get us all to play along with this ridiculous, suicidal strategy of staying inside until nobody dies again.

It's all a massive fcuk up and i'm not clapping for a bunch of people who have just done their jobs. I've seen one too many tiktok videos of nurses and doctors doing dance routines and complaining about the LGBTQ or BAME oppression that has been going on to swallow that shite anymore.

The fella that put the 500k deaths projection in front of Boris has been thoroughly discredited by now, countries that never bothered locking down have emerged in better shape than us and with intact economies and the NHS is quieter than it has been for years.

Big misjudgement, civil liberties hit harder than ever before in the history of our island and enough is enough.

I was in the supermarket earlier and a guy was blocking the butter section and taking too long to chose what he wanted so i waited for a gap and reached to get my lurpack. He recoiled in horror, literally, as i breached the magical 2 meter exclusion zone around his person for a moment and looked at me from behind his surgical mask and face shield (no gloves though) like I had just assaulted him.

Pathetic, I laughed out loud at him and carried in my shopping. Thankfully, about half the people around seem to be just getting on with their days, taking reasonable precautions and are not panicking when another person goes near them. If you are not wearing gloves but your wearing a mask and a face shield then you are an idiot. Touch is FAR more reliable transmission vector than water molecules in the air.

I see a guy who lives near me get into his car every day wearing all the gear, face mask, everything, in his own car to drive to work. What does he think is going to happen in his own car? Then it occurred to me that he and a lot of other people think that covid 19 is actually in the air, everywhere and not just around the sick.

There are more stupid people than I thought in london.

A lot of peoples immune systems are going to be severely untested and weakened come this winter. **** me can you imagine it? come October the media will be fanning the flames of a resurgence, people will demand that we lockdown again and that the government (every tax payer) start handing out salaries again and it's going to take a PM with spine to tell everyone to calm down and pull themselves together. By October we should all be looking back on this and laughing at how we all over reacted to a nasty dose of flue type virus but i bet this shit is going to go on and on.

Every time the government want to turn the screw and get us out of the way they now know how to do it.

Lock down for me ended several weeks ago, i take precautions, i wash my hands a lot and if i'm going to densely populated places like super markets then i might wear gloves but thats it and I do it only for my parents and others who are at higher risk than me.

I enjoyed the few first days of lockdown and i liked the absence of traffic noise for 3 or 4 weeks but it's back with a vengeance now. I suggest that everybody who is able just pull themselves together and shrug this off, get on with life and ignore the governments over-reaching nonsense, that is the only way to force them to back off.

The Karen's will all moan (just look at the fuss at opening the schools) but they would be moaning with or without covid-19 and so we can just ignore them the same as we did previously.

Go back to work, all of you except filthy_contract whose contract has run out.

I was contracting for 10 years until just before the lockdown, I gambled some months ago and took a staff job somewhere else. I had no idea that this would happen of course but I thought that the contracting game was over because of IR35.
 

Chef

LE
There does seem to be an air of disappointment when people don't collapse into boneless bags of nerves needing the help of teams of counselors. Who I notice don't seem to be affected by the situation.

having said which are you ok @Filthy_contract? Concerned face.
 
but did all the people stand outside and clap when the task force returned from OP Corporate?
Er...yes they did when HMS Hermes, HMS Invincible, and the Canbera returned to Plymouth and Portsmouth. They also waved, clapped, and some kind ladies got their tits out for the lads.

You don't get homecomings like that anymore.
 
This clapping for the NHS every Thursday is quite frankly fecking embarrassing.
My street has taken it it a cringeworthy level, there is clapping, fireworks going off, banging pots and pans together - honestly, it’s like the bogside in the 70s on my street.

All trying to outdo each other, the cnuts. My mrs who actually is part of the NHS wants nothing to do with it.
 
Er...yes they did when HMS Hermes, HMS Invincible, and the Canbera returned to Plymouth and Portsmouth. They also waved, clapped, and some kind ladies got their tits out for the lads.

You don't get homecomings like that anymore.

Yeah thats true. i dont think there has been such an outpouring of appreciation for the armed force since then either.
 
My street has taken it it a cringeworthy level, there is clapping, fireworks going off, banging pots and pans together - honestly, it’s like the bogside in the 70s on my street.

All trying to outdo each other, the cnuts. My mrs who actually is part of the NHS wants nothing to do with it.
Same here mate.
Both of us work in the NHS and tbh we find it bloody embarrassing.
Pots and pans banging, people trying to virtue signal how much better they are at supporting the NHS 'eroes innit.

Support us by staying in the fecking house isolated, which means NOT having a load of family and friends tipping up for a baby's 1st birthday party and a weekend on the piss with all your mates invited around!


Rant over.
 
There are more stupid people than I thought...
..and here's your issue.

I assume everyone is stupid until proved otherwise - every now again I get a nice surprise but don't hold out for much.

I've just seen that woman on the beach who'd driven for two hours complaining that it was busy - she was happy to broadcast her significant intelligence deficiency to the world, along with showing that she'd had a mong child, while her husband sat there and let it all happen.

These people vote, breed and infect the planet.

Personally, I'd be happy if lockdown continued for another thirty years or so. It reduces the risk of having to deal with these people.
 

3ToedSloth

War Hero
Many NHS workers are doing crap jobs for crap salaries. If the mouth breathers think that clapping like a seal once a week will remedy this then there's no reasoning with them. Rather than let your blood pressure soar all week for a single sixty second event on a Thursday evening ... why not enjoy the guilt-free lockdown pace of life all week while you can and then near the appointed hour simply turn up the tv/ vacuum the backroom/ turn on the washing machine/ or simply show some stiff upper lip yourself and ignore it.
 
Many NHS workers are doing crap jobs for crap salaries. If the mouth breathers think that clapping like a seal once a week will remedy this then there's no reasoning with them. Rather than let your blood pressure soar all week for a single sixty second event on a Thursday evening ... why not enjoy the guilt-free lockdown pace of life all week while you can and then near the appointed hour simply turn up the tv/ vacuum the backroom/ turn on the washing machine/ or simply show some stiff upper lip yourself and ignore it.


My bold. joined in the first and second week, the noise was tremendous, pots and pans fireworks, some twat revving a powerful motorbike and very loud music. After the second week the novelty wore off, and when No 4 daughter, the senior staff nurse said that she found it embarrassing, and so did I, once or twice fine, now its cringe-worthy and requires a serious ignoring.
 

Yokel

LE
Whatever happened to the British worldwide reputation for stoicism?
I believe the rot set in with the media-hyped burst of grieving for Diana, and we've gone bloody downhill from there.

There was a time when you shut up and just did your job to the best of your ability. The occasional "OK" or even "Not bad" was all we needed, plus of course repeated "No, not good enough, do it again"

Now we are expected to stand outside our homes and clap the chaps and chappesses (other genders for the seriously confused are available) of the NHS.

Bollocks. They're just doing their jobs. Under difficult circumstances I will admit, but did all the people stand outside and clap when the task force returned from OP Corporate?

What about the other workers who carry on and keep the nation chugging along,

Police
Delivery personnel
Shop staff
Waste collectors
Porn actors
Sewage Workers


In a show of support for these last two, I propose the following.

A Nationwide **** at 7pm on a Friday

followed by

A Nationwide crap at 9pm on the Friday.


Don't forget to wash your hands thoroughly after both.

Have you been drinking?

The NHS, sorry OUR NHS, has been used to pull on our heart strings to help get us all to play along with this ridiculous, suicidal strategy of staying inside until nobody dies again.

It's all a massive fcuk up and i'm not clapping for a bunch of people who have just done their jobs. I've seen one too many tiktok videos of nurses and doctors doing dance routines and complaining about the LGBTQ or BAME oppression that has been going on to swallow that shite anymore.

The fella that put the 500k deaths projection in front of Boris has been thoroughly discredited by now, countries that never bothered locking down have emerged in better shape than us and with intact economies and the NHS is quieter than it has been for years.

Big misjudgement, civil liberties hit harder than ever before in the history of our island and enough is enough.

I was in the supermarket earlier and a guy was blocking the butter section and taking too long to chose what he wanted so i waited for a gap and reached to get my lurpack. He recoiled in horror, literally, as i breached the magical 2 meter exclusion zone around his person for a moment and looked at me from behind his surgical mask and face shield (no gloves though) like I had just assaulted him.

Pathetic, I laughed out loud at him and carried in my shopping. Thankfully, about half the people around seem to be just getting on with their days, taking reasonable precautions and are not panicking when another person goes near them. If you are not wearing gloves but your wearing a mask and a face shield then you are an idiot. Touch is FAR more reliable transmission vector than water molecules in the air.

I see a guy who lives near me get into his car every day wearing all the gear, face mask, everything, in his own car to drive to work. What does he think is going to happen in his own car? Then it occurred to me that he and a lot of other people think that covid 19 is actually in the air, everywhere and not just around the sick.

There are more stupid people than I thought in london.

A lot of peoples immune systems are going to be severely untested and weakened come this winter. **** me can you imagine it? come October the media will be fanning the flames of a resurgence, people will demand that we lockdown again and that the government (every tax payer) start handing out salaries again and it's going to take a PM with spine to tell everyone to calm down and pull themselves together. By October we should all be looking back on this and laughing at how we all over reacted to a nasty dose of flue type virus but i bet this shit is going to go on and on.

Every time the government want to turn the screw and get us out of the way they now know how to do it.

Lock down for me ended several weeks ago, i take precautions, i wash my hands a lot and if i'm going to densely populated places like super markets then i might wear gloves but thats it and I do it only for my parents and others who are at higher risk than me.

I enjoyed the few first days of lockdown and i liked the absence of traffic noise for 3 or 4 weeks but it's back with a vengeance now. I suggest that everybody who is able just pull themselves together and shrug this off, get on with life and ignore the governments over-reaching nonsense, that is the only way to force them to back off.

The Karen's will all moan (just look at the fuss at opening the schools) but they would be moaning with or without covid-19 and so we can just ignore them the same as we did previously.

Go back to work, all of you except filthy_contract whose contract has run out.

I was contracting for 10 years until just before the lockdown, I gambled some months ago and took a staff job somewhere else. I had no idea that this would happen of course but I thought that the contracting game was over because of IR35.

Surely the prediction of half a million deaths was what might happen if no precautions were taken, no social distancing and no restrictions on social gatherings.

It has bought time for treatment to improve, drug trials to get underway, and vaccine development to start.

If there were that number of excess deaths in a short time period what would the economic and societal impact be?
 
The NHS, sorry OUR NHS, has been used to pull on our heart strings to help get us all to play along with this ridiculous, suicidal strategy of staying inside until nobody dies again.

It's all a massive fcuk up and i'm not clapping for a bunch of people who have just done their jobs. I've seen one too many tiktok videos of nurses and doctors doing dance routines and complaining about the LGBTQ or BAME oppression that has been going on to swallow that shite anymore.

The fella that put the 500k deaths projection in front of Boris has been thoroughly discredited by now, countries that never bothered locking down have emerged in better shape than us and with intact economies and the NHS is quieter than it has been for years.

Big misjudgement, civil liberties hit harder than ever before in the history of our island and enough is enough.

I was in the supermarket earlier and a guy was blocking the butter section and taking too long to chose what he wanted so i waited for a gap and reached to get my lurpack. He recoiled in horror, literally, as i breached the magical 2 meter exclusion zone around his person for a moment and looked at me from behind his surgical mask and face shield (no gloves though) like I had just assaulted him.

Pathetic, I laughed out loud at him and carried in my shopping. Thankfully, about half the people around seem to be just getting on with their days, taking reasonable precautions and are not panicking when another person goes near them. If you are not wearing gloves but your wearing a mask and a face shield then you are an idiot. Touch is FAR more reliable transmission vector than water molecules in the air.

I see a guy who lives near me get into his car every day wearing all the gear, face mask, everything, in his own car to drive to work. What does he think is going to happen in his own car? Then it occurred to me that he and a lot of other people think that covid 19 is actually in the air, everywhere and not just around the sick.

There are more stupid people than I thought in london.

A lot of peoples immune systems are going to be severely untested and weakened come this winter. **** me can you imagine it? come October the media will be fanning the flames of a resurgence, people will demand that we lockdown again and that the government (every tax payer) start handing out salaries again and it's going to take a PM with spine to tell everyone to calm down and pull themselves together. By October we should all be looking back on this and laughing at how we all over reacted to a nasty dose of flue type virus but i bet this shit is going to go on and on.

Every time the government want to turn the screw and get us out of the way they now know how to do it.

Lock down for me ended several weeks ago, i take precautions, i wash my hands a lot and if i'm going to densely populated places like super markets then i might wear gloves but thats it and I do it only for my parents and others who are at higher risk than me.

I enjoyed the few first days of lockdown and i liked the absence of traffic noise for 3 or 4 weeks but it's back with a vengeance now. I suggest that everybody who is able just pull themselves together and shrug this off, get on with life and ignore the governments over-reaching nonsense, that is the only way to force them to back off.

The Karen's will all moan (just look at the fuss at opening the schools) but they would be moaning with or without covid-19 and so we can just ignore them the same as we did previously.

Go back to work, all of you except filthy_contract whose contract has run out.

I was contracting for 10 years until just before the lockdown, I gambled some months ago and took a staff job somewhere else. I had no idea that this would happen of course but I thought that the contracting game was over because of IR35.

Whilst I agree with some of those things (yes, my daughter is a nurse and does find the clapping a tad embarrassing, so much so that she was quite relieved when she got some minor symptoms and now works from home and doesn't have to go out) you may want to rethink you bit about gloves, face masks and spread by touch.
Yes, when little was known about it, that was the thinking. Now we know a bit more then studies show that transmitting it by touch is quite rare compared to transmitting it by droplets in the air.
So much so that Spain is going to make the wearing of face masks compulsory in public places in the next couple of days because, although our guy in charge of the coordination of the crisis (Francisco Simon, a noted virologist who was a director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine as an epidemiologist) said they aren't very effective at protecting you, they can give up to 75% protection of you giving it to someone else. So if everyone wears one fine, it's the ones who don't wear them that can give it to you while you are doing your best to protect them. They have been compulsory on public transport and are issued free at bus and train stations and taxis have to have a supply.
There are two reasons for making them compulsory (with exceptions for certain conditions) and they are 1/ as we have moved on a phase in the return to the "new normal" (new buzzword round here) there are more people out and about. Until recently, it was a complete lockdown but now you can go for a walk, go to the beach (but no swimming) and sit outside in cafes if the tables are at least 2m away from each other though still only one in the shop and 2/ the availability of the medical type masks. Now, apart from being issued free, every supermarket is selling boxes of them (€6 for a pack of 10 which can be washed 3 times).

You may not think the face masks are doing any good but more and more studies (yeah, I know, bloody experts) are saying they do help.

My other daughter in UK tells me that supermarkets round near her are now insisting you don't wear gloves because they can cause infection being spread. Just hand sanitiser now.
Here, if you are wearing gloves when you go in, you get the sanitiser on the gloves and then have to put a pair of their gloves on over the ones you are wearing.

And, yes, I also see the dummies wearing a mask driving a car by themselves. Can't see who they think they are going to infect with only them in the car.
 
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A little birdie tells me that a once prominent arrser from Barnsley area - who shall remain nameless - suffered a stress fracture to his hand on or around 20:00 last Thursday, and had to go to A&E.
 
Surely the prediction of half a million deaths was what might happen if no precautions were taken, no social distancing and no restrictions on social gatherings.

All that the Prof's computer model really shows is that less contact means slower spread. The actual figure for deaths bears no relationship to reality, as previous predictions from the same model have shown.


It has bought time for treatment to improve, drug trials to get underway, and vaccine development to start.

Very true. And regardless of the validity of the modelling, it was probably a good decision.


If there were that number of excess deaths in a short time period what would the economic and societal impact be?

My guess would be very little. Most victims would be relatively unimportant to the economy.

The potential guaranteed political and media reaction, however...
 

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