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Goatman

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I ' narrowly missed out' on Canada and USA - the RNR took five MCMV's over there in the summer after I came back from six weeks in the Far East. SWMBO considered I was pushing my luck....Oh, and a stint on HMS Invincible, which happened at that time to be in the West Indies.

And the deployments I listed were all over several weeks, rather than airport stopovers :)

( FWIW, Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan where I deployed later as a TA soldier or in my day job weren't a patch on Denmark :) ...... )

and now, back to the records: Physical Training Specialisation Direct Entry | Royal Navy
 
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And the deployments I listed were all over several weeks rather than airport stopovers
Mine were all 2+ weeks, 3 weeks if between 1990 and 2011. I didn't include additional recce trips which were typically about a week long as they were to the same destination for the same purpose.
 

Stan_Deesey

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It is quite probable that with all the accreditation that the RN's training seems to attractshe may end up with a degree anyway. I don't know for certain about clubswingers but survey ratings can end up with a BSc once they are Senior Rates.

That would have been my advice - join up at 18, and start training as a PTI. There´s never been a better time to do this if it´s now direct entry. The job doesn´t even require any formal qualifications, but having A-Levels would qualify her for a commission later on.
There´s the possibility of studying for a degree within the RN - especially as PTI is a job with lots of shore time. There´d be time to do the coursework, and she wouldn´t have to fork out 9 grand to do it.
I don´t know if the RN pays any course fees for OU degrees, but it did use to give financial help to anyone who wanted to do one.
 

GingerNavs

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That would have been my advice - join up at 18, and start training as a PTI. There´s never been a better time to do this if it´s now direct entry. The job doesn´t even require any formal qualifications, but having A-Levels would qualify her for a commission later on.
There´s the possibility of studying for a degree within the RN - especially as PTI is a job with lots of shore time. There´d be time to do the coursework, and she wouldn´t have to fork out 9 grand to do it.
I don´t know if the RN pays any course fees for OU degrees, but it did use to give financial help to anyone who wanted to do one.
Can you use Standard/Enhanced Learning Credits?
 

Stan_Deesey

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Can you use Standard/Enhanced Learning Credits?

I don´t know mate. I´m not in the RN anymore. Hopefully there´s someone on here who will know. There might already be a thread about this. If not, you could start one.

I remember there being something called Education Allowance when I was in. It was budgeted for every soldier, sailor and airman who was serving, but nobody was told about it. I did a couple of GCSEs through the mob, and I didn´t have to pay a penny for either of them, but I don´t know if the costs for this came out of my education allowance or not.

I did GCSE maths via a naval correspondence course, and there was a PO Wtr on my ship who helped me with some of my coursework. He had an OU degree in mathematics which he´d completed whilst serving, but I don´t know how much the RN had helped him financially with this. That´s as much as I know.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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It´s just my thinking, but after spending three or four years at university at great cost to herself, (how much is it now?), why would she then apply for a job that she would be massively overqualified for? That´s only my opinion though, and it´s up to her.

I didn´t meet very many graduates on the lower deck when I was in the mob. I can only remember two. One of them had a degree in something sporty, yet he was a radio operator. The other one had a degree in marine biology or zoology and he was planning on becoming an SD officer, but he failed Part Three training and was discharged SNLR.

I´m going back thirty years though, so I´ll understand if attitudes have changed.
Does the Navy have a scheme to fund a degree provided you complete a number of years' service? Might be worth a look.
 
Does the Navy have a scheme to fund a degree provided you complete a number of years' service? Might be worth a look.
Yes - as long as you don't already have a degree.
 

Stan_Deesey

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.....and as a Reservist 30 years ago I went to Denmark, Gibraltar, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.

Used to laugh when TA mates got all excited about going to ..er....' Germany....maybe Cyprus if we're really lucky '

I think the Army Reserve are a bit more integrated today, and might get a U.S trip in from time to time.
But there is no comparison between the Army and the RN when it comes to foreign travel.

Given that @Ninja_Stoker used to work in an RN Careers office, surprised not to see any input from him here.

The lads in my TA squadron would get excited about going to Warcop, never mind Germany! Even Thetford was an exotic location for us.

There was an annual two-week exchange with the National Guard in the USA, but that was just for sergeants, and only one or two each year. That was the only foreign travel opportunity within the squadron that I can remember. (We were HD Yeomanry).

This thread is going brilliantly by the way. It´s covering both RN and TA/AR topics. The OP should change the thread title to, "Help! Navy and TA Only", or, "My stepdaughter wants to be a PTI in the Navy, but if she joins the Army Reserve instead then how much travel is she likely to get?"
 

B42T

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I’m Navy.

Tell her to go for it. I am not a PTI but obviously I’ve met loads and one of my closest mates transferred to PTI after doing 4 or 5 years in the Marine Engineering branch.

I can’t really comment about the first year or two of training for direct entry PTIs as that’s a fairly new thing. Up until fairly recently you had to do 3 plus years in another branch, be recommended for leading hand and then transfer across.

As with all jobs in the RN there are two very different chunks of life:

Sea time and shore time.

At sea a PTI will be based on a ship, they organise and run daily PT sessions as well as oversee fitness tests. When you get to foreign ports they organise footie matches and the like with local teams.

Day to day at sea they are part of the executive branch who work directly for the XO (second in command of the ship). Along with the ship’s regulator (Policeman) they do general admin for the XO like print and distribute daily orders.

They are also trained as a special sea duty helmsman. They steer the ship when doing more dangerous evolutions like refuelling at sea (RASing) or coming in and out of harbour.

During shore time they are employed in a gym on a base. That’s basically it. It’s largely the same as working in a civvy gym but with more shouting. They may also organise adventurous training expeditions such as canoeing, mountain biking etc.

There are also a few specialist jobs out there for PTIs. My mate runs the Navy’s adventurous training centre in Bavaria. He lives in a chalet up a mountain and takes people skiing in the winter and rock climbing in the summer.

Regardless of branch the RN is a fantastic life. If she likes travel, adventure and meeting people, then there is nothing better. During my first 6 years I went to over 40 different countries.

Without wishing to sound sexist in anyway, the RN is also particularly girl friendly. Every opportunity that exists for men, also exists for girls and everyone is treated equally.

Finally, the RAF are weak as **** and the Army eat their own young so don’t bother with them.

Tbf, most stokers I've met would have happily re-branched to steward after 5 years of spannering.
 
You still get your standard learning credits every year although this seems to be under used. I have previously used mine for OU courses. You still have to put your hand into your own pocket for these as the credit will not pay the full cost.

GCSE and A levels can be gained whilst in the service.
 

Goatman

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:-D - call that a black cat?

Hah, that's not a cat ....that's a .....
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[That's enough lamp-swinging. Jimmy The One ]

Does the Navy have a scheme to fund a degree provided you complete a number of years' service? Might be worth a look.

Used to be called University Cadetship Entry (UCE) or you could get a Bursary.

It's a very long time since I worked for DNR - ping @Ninja_Stoker for more up to date info.
 

JAD

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Wot, 4 pages in and no dits of nefarious Errol Flynn style "daring do" with RN Officers of the female persuasion; dry and or on board ship. Slack drills lads.
 

Ravers

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Anyone noticed that the OP hasn’t come back?

We’ve all been talking to ourselves for the last couple of days.
 

Stan_Deesey

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Anyone noticed that the OP hasn’t come back?

We’ve all been talking to ourselves for the last couple of days.

If his stepdaughter has looked at this thread, then she might have changed her career plans. "Sod joining the Navy!", she´ll have thought, "It´ll be like working in an old folk´s home!".
 

JAD

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If his stepdaughter has looked at this thread, then she might have changed her career plans. "Sod joining the Navy!", she´ll have thought, "It´ll be like working in an old folk´s home!".
Or she apply to be a 'mod' on here. Same differerence eh?
 

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