Agree regarding URNU but (my bold) really?
Caterers (senior rate ie SGT or above) yes. Cabbage slicers hell no, but stewards yes they do drive submarines.Interesting - thank you. Someone once told me that submarines are quite often driven by chefs and the like - I guess there could be grain of truth in that too.
Apologies to the OP for thread diversion.
It´s just my thinking, but after spending three or four years at university at great cost to herself, (how much is it now?), why would she then apply for a job that she would be massively overqualified for? That´s only my opinion though, and it´s up to her.
I didn´t meet very many graduates on the lower deck when I was in the mob. I can only remember two. One of them had a degree in something sporty, yet he was a radio operator. The other one had a degree in marine biology or zoology and he was planning on becoming an SD officer, but he failed Part Three training and was discharged SNLR.
I´m going back thirty years though, so I´ll understand if attitudes have changed.
I remember 'way back when' ..when field gun was a thing- there used to be people in "club swinger cliques"- their service life revolved around various sporting activities. They were always off doing something or other and...ended up shit in their source branch. They were still regarded as blue-eyed boys though as having a boxing champ or field gunner on the ship's company was maybe a good reflection on the command??The RN doesn’t have PT Officers, per se, any more. Most PTIs who go Officer become Logs Officers, although some become Warfare Officers.
Frankly, the PT Branch was pretty lucky to survive the last round of inquisition, especially noting Ravers’ comments about what they do shoreside.
I remember 'way back when' ..when field gun was a thing- there used to be people in "club swinger cliques"- their service life revolved around various sporting activities. They were always off doing something or other and...ended up shit in their source branch. They were still regarded as blue-eyed boys though as having a boxing champ or field gunner on the ship's company was maybe a good reflection on the command??
Is this sort of thing still a thing? Although I know there's no field gun anymore...is Brickwoods still running?
To be honest- I cant say I recall ever knowing a clubswinger I, or anyone else considered a knob. Maybe they filter those sorts out at Temeraire.
You will also be very aware of how, when Wimbledon season starts, whole wardrooms can be seen cutting through Drake with jumpers casually over their shoulders brandishing tennis raquets. I recall an instance of one officer, whilst we were in defence watches down the gulf-asking the clubz if he could cater for those with an interest in tennis whilst at sea. I think enquiries were made into obtaining a ping pong table from stores or something.
We are probably of the same generation and I agree that a degree was something of a rarity in the lower decks but I believe that there may be more educational mobility throughout society now. The modern RN needs highly educated personnel. If the young lady studied for a worthwhile degree she increases her options. Join as a PTI (at around 21 or 22 years old), enjoy the life experience and then further down the line she is educationally qualified as an Officer (although a degree is not necessary in all disciplines) and/or move on to a civilian career having achieved her military ambitions above or below decks.
During shore time they are employed in a gym on a base. That’s basically it. It’s largely the same as working in a civvy gym but with more shouting. They may also organise adventurous training expeditions such as canoeing, mountain biking etc.
Thirty one years and six months young man. You?Bobb, were you ever actually in the Navy?
I agree with your point about there probably being more educational mobility in society these days.
At the end of the day, it´s up to the young lady to choose what she wants to do, and to seek advice from people more qualified than us to give it.
Thirty one years and six months young man. You?
I'm pleased that you agree with my comments.
Dunno if you’ve noticed those two massive aircraft carriers we got recently?
Even as a reservist I’ve been to 7 countries in the past 4 years. Cyprus, Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Hong Kong, Japan.
I'm jealous......and as a Reservist 30 years ago I went to Denmark, Gibraltar, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan.
If she's only 15 then she has time on her side to keep a eye on how undergraduate degrees are a pathway to anything over the next few years. As someome working in HE, the current learning experience is so fragmented, and job prospects so uncertain, that I think it would be wise to see if/how it recovers after the pandemic before deciding if it is right for her.
There are a lot of kids jacking it because it's £9k for a shit experience at present, and likewise, plenty of grads are now going into post-grad courses for a couple of years in hope that the job market picks up over that period.
Likewise, job prospects outside of Govt service for 16 - 18 y/o are going to be interesting for a year or two yet.
Germany*, Gibraltar*, Cyprus (Akrotiri)*, Cyprus (UN Nicosia), Cyprus (Troodos) x2, Naples, Hong Kong, Ascension*, Falklands*, Berlin (April 1990), Iraq, Kuwait.
*more than 3 times
In UK? Thetford twice, Catterick once, Weymouth once.
Now back on thread...
It is quite probable that with all the accreditation that the RN's training seems to attractshe may end up with a degree anyway. I don't know for certain about clubswingers but survey ratings can end up with a BSc once they are Senior Rates.A valid point and perhaps a reason to join up at 18. I understand that Collingwood has now opened up as a Part I training establishment to cope with increased recruitment. However, the opportunity for a good degree should not be under estimated.