Static Line Hang Up

#2
Brit military student at Weston - on -the- Green on static-line square, on a tailgate exit. Use of HUPRA which is the eventual round canopy seen, which if my memory serves me well is a GQ 22'.

The delay in 'releasing' him is determined by the air crew wanting to bring him over the DZ again for a 'safe' landing.
 
#3
All the jumps I ever done were side exit from a C-130 and I was always taught, arms tucked in holding top of your container and your legs together, why from a rear exit have these guys got arms and legs splayed like a star like fashion.

Iam sure they is good reason for this but it seems his arm cause's even more entanglement when it gets caught in the rigging lines.


edit to add- after a little more thought I bet its something to do with reducing the risk of ending up in twists.
 
#4
As I've never parachuted in my life, to me that looked unsurvivable! He seemed to be completely wrapped up in his lines and I was sure they were also wrapped around both his 'chutes.

Just another reason why I wait for the aircraft to land before exiting. :D
 
#5
Alec_Lomas said:
The delay in 'releasing' him is determined by the air crew wanting to bring him over the DZ again for a 'safe' landing.

Well chopping him off straight over the M40 might be considered a touch antisocial, even for the Crabs!
 
#7
Just re-affirms my decision when I joined up not to consider for one single second joining the Paras. Hell of a ride though but I bet he was glad to eventually get down on the ground even if it did take him a bit longer than he anticipated.
 
#8
pegasusbranding said:
All the jumps I ever done were side exit from a C-130 and I was always taught, arms tucked in holding top of your container and your legs together, why from a rear exit have these guys got arms and legs splayed like a star like fashion.

Iam sure they is good reason for this but it seems his arm cause's even more entanglement when it gets caught in the rigging lines.
Ramp exits are another technique again. Initially it was SBS troops back in the mid '70's who fashioned this technique. It's a variation of the ramp exit free fallers technique called both a 'reverse frog' or 'sit down' position.

When perfected, it provides a smooth and stable platform for the canopy to deploy. The technique varies slightly again when you have a bfo front mounted container strapped to your legs. However as these troops are also free fall trained where the container / equipment is worn across the arrse, this exit technique is easier still.
 
#9
Alec_Lomas, a question for you as you seem to know your stuff on this.

If there was no way that the jumper could detangle himself enough to be cut away, is there any means of actually recovering him back into the aircraft?
 
#10
He doesn't really "detangle" though does he ? The HUPRA goes through all the static lines on the aircraft then the anchor cable ( or whatever its called ) is chopped
 
#11
llech said:
Earn't his pay that day!
The cameraman certainly did. His footage will have seriously helped to eliminate either jumper error or parachute packing error. No other jumpers would have exited following this incident and the air crew on landing at Brize would have had the aircraft impounded while a BOI was actioned.

Then commences a series of clinical interviews by specialist and non specialist personalities..................................
 
#12
Recce19 said:
Alec_Lomas, a question for you as you seem to know your stuff on this.

If there was no way that the jumper could detangle himself enough to be cut away, is there any means of actually recovering him back into the aircraft?
Yes there is on military airframes, sport technique is another matter again. Military a/c have a winch retrieval system which will recover the jumper.

The critical phase is where the jumper nears the a/c ramp, particularly if he is unconscious, as the airflow around the ramp zone is very turbulant. I've never witnessed a 'live' retrieval but saw it done with simulated weighted manniquins.
 
#13
Forastero said:
Like the thumbs up about a minute in!
Indeed. :D But I reckon it's to show the dispatcher he's still conscious and able to deploy his reserve so the static line can be cut. Impressive to see it (but hope it never happens to me).
 
#15
Stanley1975 said:
Forastero said:
Like the thumbs up about a minute in!
Indeed. :D But I reckon it's to show the dispatcher he's still conscious and able to deploy his reserve so the static line can be cut. Impressive to see it (but hope it never happens to me).
The static line is not cut in military SOP's It's a BPA practice.
 
#16
Alec_Lomas said:
Recce19 said:
Alec_Lomas, a question for you as you seem to know your stuff on this.

If there was no way that the jumper could detangle himself enough to be cut away, is there any means of actually recovering him back into the aircraft?
Yes there is on military airframes, sport technique is another matter again. Military a/c have a winch retrieval system which will recover the jumper.

The critical phase is where the jumper nears the a/c ramp, particularly if he is unconscious, as the airflow around the ramp zone is very turbulant. I've never witnessed a 'live' retrieval but saw it done with simulated weighted manniquins.
Thanks for the answer and glad that there is something in place.
 
#17
Alec_Lomas said:
Stanley1975 said:
Forastero said:
Like the thumbs up about a minute in!
Indeed. :D But I reckon it's to show the dispatcher he's still conscious and able to deploy his reserve so the static line can be cut. Impressive to see it (but hope it never happens to me).
The static line is not cut in military SOP's It's a BPA practice.
Thanks for that. I was about to ask something about the mannequins you mentioned, but I reckon you've already answered it.
 
#18
At first glance it looks like he attached his cspep or other gear in amongst the risers, bringing the bergan over his head. But watching it a couple of times even if he did, it wouldnt effect the deployment bag from letting all the rigging lines go, which it doesnt in the video. Looks like the bag was going to lock no matter what, but could be wrong.

Then again if the bergan got in amongst the lines and totally stopped one of the two sets from coming out, while the other kept pulling it might be the bags fault.
 
#19
The close up on the ground shows the static line caught in one of the CSPEP quick releases, and you can see it earlier on by following the static line down towards him during the hang up.
 
#20
Alec_Lomas said:
llech said:
Earn't his pay that day!
The cameraman certainly did. His footage will have seriously helped to eliminate either jumper error or parachute packing error. No other jumpers would have exited following this incident and the air crew on landing at Brize would have had the aircraft impounded while a BOI was actioned.

Then commences a series of clinical interviews by specialist and non specialist personalities..................................
Looks more to me like he did a tail exit with the static line across his body and under his arm - a recipe for disaster.
 

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