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Star Wars - something thats been annoying me for 30 years

Mr Happy

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#1
Do you remember the lightsabre fight between Obi Wan and Darth Vader?

At the end of that fight Obi Wan says "if you strike me down Darth, I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine"

And ol' Darth, never one to look a gift horse in the eye lops his noggin off.

1. Why did Obi Wan say that and, given the following movies, apart from a few spectoral scenes, did he ever get more powerful? He certainly didn't have a huge impact in SW except for his advice to Luke ("use the force Luke, Use the force!") when he was about to shoot his photo torpedo's…

2. Why did his body vanish leaving just his old monk like clothes…

Anyone got any answers?
 

B_AND_T

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#2
Get out more!
 
#3
I'll be duty geek for the day.

My interpretation is he continured to guide luke. Even in death. He can always be there to dish out pointers on the force. Thereby being more 'powerfull'.

He left no corpse behind and moved into his ghost like state. This also happens to Yoda in Episode six. It must be how the transition takes place. As Darth appears like this at the end of Episode Six, we must also assume that his body disappeared, leaving the suit behind.

This is, of course, ruined by Qui gon Jin (or however you spell it) who learns of this technique but is clearly a corpse at the end of episode one.

I need to get laid.
 

Mr Happy

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#5
StabTiffy2B said:
I'll be duty geek for the day.

My interpretation is he continured to guide luke. Even in death. He can always be there to dish out pointers on the force. Thereby being more 'powerfull'.
I'm cool with the guidance bit but surely defeating Vader (or at least having a shot) would have been more useful, then he could have slotted himself if being ethereal was really important...
 
#6
No because Vader was needed to defeat the emperor. Luke couldn't have done it on his own.
 

Mr Happy

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#7
drain_sniffer said:
why does Darth Vader not reckognise the robots when he see's them again. He after all built one of them
One of many many many problems with episodes 1-3 that made 4-6 unworkable
 

chrisg46

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#8
Mr Happy said:
drain_sniffer said:
why does Darth Vader not reckognise the robots when he see's them again. He after all built one of them
One of many many many problems with episodes 1-3 that made 4-6 unworkable
Although it could be argued that Vader never actually interacts with the droids directly in the last three films. The closest he gets is shooting R2 over the death star in the first (4th?) film, which is not a deliberate attack on the droid, and when han is frozen in the second (5th) one, C3P0 is in the same room. Other than that, he has no reason to get involved with them...

I must now go and write 50 times "Star wars is not real, it doesnt really matter..." :meditate: :frustrated: :ufo: :meditate:
 

Mr Happy

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#9
chrisg46 said:
Mr Happy said:
drain_sniffer said:
why does Darth Vader not reckognise the robots when he see's them again. He after all built one of them
One of many many many problems with episodes 1-3 that made 4-6 unworkable
Although it could be argued that Vader never actually interacts with the droids directly in the last three films. The closest he gets is shooting R2 over the death star in the first (4th?) film, which is not a deliberate attack on the droid, and when han is frozen in the second (5th) one, C3P0 is in the same room. Other than that, he has no reason to get involved with them...

I must now go and write 50 times "Star wars is not real, it doesnt really matter..." :meditate: :frustrated: :ufo: :meditate:
Tish tosh Chris,

Mostly because….. Drum roll…

C3PO apparently was a cyberdine series model blah blah protocol driod. Which is fine, until SW1 when we see little annakin building him - at which point he is rather obviously not off a production line, which makes George Lucas a liar and I shall never forgive him.
 
#10
Are the Stormtroopers in episodes 4-6 still clones?
Why is the uniform different?


So many questions that remain un-answered
 
#12
The uniforms are different because The Emperor didn't wan't to make it look like he was preparing for galactic conquest by purchasing the enhanced Storm trooper Armour. This was done to appease his back benchers in The senate on Corusant.

Palpatine has the blood of his loyal stormtroopers on his hands.
 
#13
C3PO was repaired and put together by the young Annakin not created.

C3PO returns to Annakin in episode 2 when he reclaims his mothers body. He remains with Annakin and Padmay until episode 3 when Annakin punishes Padmay for bringing Obi Wan with her. After Padmays death the 2 driods are given to Senator Bail Organa and he has their memories wiped and are put into service. This then links the 2 driods to Lia in episode 4.

There are many scenes with the C3PO model knocking about. Although the only gold one was C3 i think.
 
#14
When the droids and luke turn up at Obi's house in episode 4, Obi says that he doesnt recal owning any droids - yet he hung around the little blue beepy one long enough to know who he was surely. Why didnt he say "I dont recal owning any droids, yet I know this little badger here"
 
#15
Mr Happy said:
chrisg46 said:
Mr Happy said:
drain_sniffer said:
why does Darth Vader not reckognise the robots when he see's them again. He after all built one of them
One of many many many problems with episodes 1-3 that made 4-6 unworkable
Although it could be argued that Vader never actually interacts with the droids directly in the last three films. The closest he gets is shooting R2 over the death star in the first (4th?) film, which is not a deliberate attack on the droid, and when han is frozen in the second (5th) one, C3P0 is in the same room. Other than that, he has no reason to get involved with them...

I must now go and write 50 times "Star wars is not real, it doesnt really matter..." :meditate: :frustrated: :ufo: :meditate:
Tish tosh Chris,

Mostly because….. Drum roll…

C3PO apparently was a cyberdine series model blah blah protocol driod. Which is fine, until SW1 when we see little annakin building him - at which point he is rather obviously not off a production line
, which makes George Lucas a liar and I shall never forgive him.
Perhaps it's like the difference between a Lotus 7 and a Caterham 7 - Anakin was building the kit car version. It's amazing what you can get mail order nowadays/in the past/in the future.
 

chrisg46

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#16
you know, this gets so much more complicated when you start reading the books too....
 
#17
I can just imagine the scene, Han is frozen, suddenly Darth notices C3PO and goes "Hey dude! Long time no see, how are you buddy?"

It would have ruined the atmosphere a bit... :cyclopsani:
 
#18
It's obvious that Obi Wan denied droid ownership... because of the stash of Kiddy porn he'd left on R2's hard drive..

He once made the mistake of taking R2 D2 to Droid World for a repair!

Thats why he lived in the desert.. he was on the Imperial Sex offenders register.
 

Mr Happy

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#19
drain_sniffer said:
When the droids and luke turn up at Obi's house in episode 4, Obi says that he doesnt recal owning any droids - yet he hung around the little blue beepy one long enough to know who he was surely. Why didnt he say "I dont recal owning any droids, yet I know this little badger here"
LMFAO
 
#20
The thing that I never quite understood was in Episode five where Obi Wan and Yoda are chatting after Luke does one. Obi wan says "He's our last hope" (or somesuch) and yoda replies with "No another there is" (or something like that).

Obi Wan knows that there is another because he was there when old Portman banged them both out.
 

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