SPS TRF

#1
Apparently from 6 Apr next year we will be known as SPS instead of the AGC and wear a TRF, a red and blue number with 'SPS' written across it. So now we can be abused even when in the field. Doesn't you heart swell with pride.

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#2
big_bad_bill said:
Apparently from 6 Apr next year we will be known as SPS instead of the AGC and wear a TRF, a red and blue number with 'SPS' written across it. So now we can be abused even when in the field. Doesn't you heart swell with pride.

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It's been SPS for all clerks since the formation of the AGC has it not?

The TRF is out, although I've not yet seen anyone wearing it.
 
#3
Problem is that ETS, Legal Eagles and RMP get called by their Branch. Clerks are nearly alwys referred to as AGC. Either the Branch pushes the term SPS, in which case what does it matter whether we are AGC or not, OR, the other branches start to become AGC as well. If we get a TRF (which I have heard about) then what is the reason for putting SPS on it? Guess it would be acceptable if all AGC pers had a blue/red TRF then SPS, ETS, PRO etc stamped on it. I am sure mnay have their own views!!
 
#5
AGC TACTICAL RECOGNITION FLASHES (TRFs)
1. Defence Publicity (Army) has recently issued a poster of the Authorized and Registered
Tactical Recognition Flashes of the British Army. Unfortunately, the AGC colours were transposed
on the original poster and a revised version of the poster is being prepared and will be issued in due
course.
2. It is current policy that AGC personnel do not wear TRFs. This policy is being kept under
review.
3. Please give this policy the widest possible publicity through your chain of command. Thank
you.
 
#6
at_ease said:
AGC TACTICAL RECOGNITION FLASHES (TRFs)
1. Defence Publicity (Army) has recently issued a poster of the Authorized and Registered
Tactical Recognition Flashes of the British Army. Unfortunately, the AGC colours were transposed
on the original poster and a revised version of the poster is being prepared and will be issued in due
course.
2. It is current policy that AGC personnel do not wear TRFs. This policy is being kept under
review.
3. Please give this policy the widest possible publicity through your chain of command. Thank
you.
Fckuing hell, you really meant that didn't you! Chain of command everyone!
 
#7
It is official, seen the letter from the director. We will also get rank slides with SPS instead of AGC. It's all to give the SPS more of a branch identity, instead of AGC = Clerks.

Is Biscuits AB alright? I don't believe someones having a serious tread on this forum without him or Dale jumping in.
 
#9
yellowbelly said:
Problem is that ETS, Legal Eagles and RMP get called by their Branch. Clerks are nearly alwys referred to as AGC. Either the Branch pushes the term SPS, in which case what does it matter whether we are AGC or not, OR, the other branches start to become AGC as well. If we get a TRF (which I have heard about) then what is the reason for putting SPS on it? Guess it would be acceptable if all AGC pers had a blue/red TRF then SPS, ETS, PRO etc stamped on it. I am sure mnay have their own views!!
The have on the chart at least:

 
#10
Mike, nice one. My eyesight ain't what it was. I am assuming that SPS & ETS are the blue/grey letters ( not sure why they are not all the same colour) and the MPs have the whole red background? So it's the AGC with one TRF and the MPs with another. Why do we bother to have them in the Corps?
 
#12
yellowbelly said:
Mike, nice one. My eyesight ain't what it was. I am assuming that SPS & ETS are the blue/grey letters ( not sure why they are not all the same colour) and the MPs have the whole red background? So it's the AGC with one TRF and the MPs with another. Why do we bother to have them in the Corps?
Sorry, Heres a bigger version for you.

I cannot see the point of Military Police having a MPS TRF if they wear an MP Badge?

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#13
Well they RMP do not have an MPS TRF because it is not for RMP it is for MPS who are a different organisation, although they do answer to the PM(A). As it clearly shows on the chart RMP have a specialist TRF.
 
#14
personnel being sps myself its just another way for a rodney to shaft you in the field by giving you more shat tasks. where do these balloonknots get these ideas from whitehall, puzzle palace!!! Why dont they let us get on with our job instead of wasting our time taking our kit to the tailors, when we could be looking after our soldiers pay and docs. If its to give you identity then we are all in the wrong job, we have no identity thats why we are in the army. I am not a number i am free man, viv'e la revloution!!!!!

Too many pumpers in the military creating rules an not thinking about their personnel. they need to get a grip and wake up to real world.
 
#16
Ahhh all this trouble.

RMP have and will always have their individuality.

Next you specialist pen pushers will want a lozenge like the SIB have, so that Commanders in Theatre can distinguish from a pen pusher who can't write and one that can.

FYI the SIB lozenge came about because Commanders in the FYR were pissed off with speaking to SNCO's wearing MP armbands, who used the "I'm GPD not SIB" excuse, when asked about Police Work, that they were not SIB and only did Provost Ops.
 
#17
they made all the reme at our place wear trfs recently which made me laugh.

reme dont need trfs as they are all so stupendously ugly. thats how you recognise a reme tradesman, they look like shrek.
 
#18
Alf_Garnet_Commando said:
they made all the reme at our place wear trfs recently which made me laugh.

reme dont need trfs as they are all so stupendously ugly. thats how you recognise a reme tradesman, they look like shrek.
Is Wayne Rooney in the REME then ...?
 
#19
Yellowbelly, you do not bother with RMP in your corps (as clerks do not bother with so many of their responsibilities), we grace you with our presence, adding much needed gravitas.
 
#20
I am in favour of anything that recognises the separate identity of the AGC(SPS), and anyone else, from the RMP. After 12 years the monkeys still do not know if they are AGC (PRO) or AGC (RMP) ....no wonder they screw up so many Court Martials.

Historically, the RMP TRF is a Red Beret which the rest of the Army rightfully regard as an impact area.
 

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