Spineless response from my police force

#1
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/mailbag/Showing-his-pic-would-not.4556153.jp#3303595

Published Date: 03 October 2008
Calderdale Police HQ,
Richmond Close,
Halifax
With reference to Saturday's Courier headline "Menace to be set free" and the Courier Comment about the decision of West Yorkshire Police not to release the photograph of Michael Scully for publication.
As Divisional Commander responsible for policing Calderdale, I thought you and your readers deserved a little more explanation as to why that decision was made.
Calderdale is at the forefront of a national drive to reduce crime by managing offenders.
The Courier has reported on some of the success stories of the integrated offender management program recently.
The approach is really quite simple. The police and other agencies will work with offenders to change their lifestyle and behaviour.
Support and advice is available on a whole range of issues including housing, benefits, training, employment and substance misuse.
Those who respond reap their own rewards and become productive members of society.
For those who don't or won't change their ways, then the police take the lead, closely and intrusively monitoring and managing their movements and behaviour.
At the end of the day, they have a choice – play ball or else face the consequences, and, of course, not everyone will play ball.
I would not want your readers to think we had gone soft on criminals. After all, the results speak for themselves. As one example, since 2004 there have been more than 4,500 fewer victims of crime in Calderdale.
To publish this man's face on the front of the Courier prior to his release, would, in my opinion, do nothing to persuade him to work with us.
My officers have already met with him in advance of his release, to explain the program and his options. Remember, not only will he be released on licence but he is also subject of an Asbo – plenty for us to intrusively monitor and manage.
I hope this helps you and your readers understand why we have done what we have done this time.
Ian C Levitt
Chief Superintendent
Divisional Commander
Calderdale
But god help you if I catch you driving at 31mph.
 
#2
Sex offenders, Drug dealers, Junkies and jobless lay about's, the uk will look after them all.
We are soft and so hung up on Human Rites that we have forgotten that these people deserve nothing but contempt from normal, honest hard working members of the public.
All these people should be exposed, ostracized and made to pay back their debts to society.
I am a serving Prison Officer and feel nothing but contempt for the SCUM who are in my care.
Roll on the day our Governments see sense and expose the people who cause decent, hard working and honest people to hide away in their homes for fear of coming to harm!!!
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#3
Funny how they're all at the forefront of a National drive to reduce crime by managing offenders. Is that the new mantra?
 
#4
Biscuits_AB said:
Funny how they're all at the forefront of a National drive to reduce crime by managing offenders. Is that the new mantra?
Isn't that the role of the Probation Service?
 
#5
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
 
#6
......and the media, almost entirely left wing oriented, is bleating about Boris Johnson 'politicising' the police! Johnson did not appoint the worthless poseur Blair but by golly he has as good as sacked him - well done Mayor, well done!

This is an example of the ludicrous attitude inculcated into the top echelons of the Police SERVICES. 'Services' meaning to serve notice of prosecution on motorists or the elderly who are unlikely to fight back or argue.

The sooner it is realized that the public have largely lost faith in the nation's police - not the 'bobby on the beat' amybe, but the highly paid superintendents and above and their loony left-winged political masters.

Put a plastic bottle into the wrong bin and you could end up in prison - rob and rape and you are 'managed'.

The dreadful government continues to boast about falling crime figures. This boast is empty and is a total lie. I could so manage statistics to prove that my batting is better than Bradman's or Ramprakash's , in precisely the same way the dishonest and disgraced government massage the so-called 'crime figures'.

PS. I enjoy a good rant, and being an 'Oxygen Thief' I enjoy the privilege of rarely being rebutted.
 
#7
I dunno. The Chief Supers explanation seems reasonable to me.

I have no axe to grind. I absolutely loath some of the criminal behavior

exhibited in this day and age. If I had my way, I would build a huge

meat grinder such as my butcher has, only on an enormous scale, and

chuck some of the feckers into it while they are still breathing.

However, the liberals are not going to let me do that, and there are a

huge number of them.

We have to do something. Our prisons are full, as are yours. We can

shove 'em in but, ultimately they have to be released. Read your news

paper, they immediately re-offend.

If we can't kill them, and we can't lock them up forever, what's to be

done?

The Chief Super has come up with a plan. What's yours? Apart from

slagging him off and whingeing about your driving tickets.
 
#8
From the Police Press release "For those who don't or won't change their ways, then the police take the lead, closely and intrusively monitoring and managing their movements and behaviour"
This sounds like a sort of beasting for civvies? Anyone living in the area who can comment? We know that beasting can work wonders in a closely-disciplined force - how about civvies? If what the Calderdale cops are doing works, then it should be taught at Hendon as a nation-wide policy. I'd support it but I imagine it is labour intensive so the tree-huggers would defeat it that way.
 
#9
Last weekend,a 'joyrider' wrecked the 6ft wooden & concrete post fence of one of my neighbours (we live at the bottom of a cul-de-sac) & the PSNI did'nt even come out until the next day YET my neighbour opposite my apt got into an argument with the neighbourhood 'nosy git & all-round know-it-all & busy body' the friday before.The PSNI sent two officers on foot after the busy body made a complaint within 10 min!
 
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#10
lsquared said:
......and the media, almost entirely left wing oriented, is bleating about Boris Johnson 'politicising' the police! Johnson did not appoint the worthless poseur Blair but by golly he has as good as sacked him - well done Mayor, well done!

This is an example of the ludicrous attitude inculcated into the top echelons of the Police SERVICES. 'Services' meaning to serve notice of prosecution on motorists or the elderly who are unlikely to fight back or argue.

The sooner it is realized that the public have largely lost faith in the nation's police - not the 'bobby on the beat' amybe, but the highly paid superintendents and above and their loony left-winged political masters.

Put a plastic bottle into the wrong bin and you could end up in prison - rob and rape and you are 'managed'.

The dreadful government continues to boast about falling crime figures. This boast is empty and is a total lie. I could so manage statistics to prove that my batting is better than Bradman's or Ramprakash's , in precisely the same way the dishonest and disgraced government massage the so-called 'crime figures'.

PS. I enjoy a good rant, and being an 'Oxygen Thief' I enjoy the privilege of rarely being rebutted.
Boris didn't sack or 'near as sack' him. The Mayor of London doesn't have the authority to do so. Only the Home Secretary has the power to sack the highest ranking police officer in the land.

As for the prosecution of motorists and the elderly, well if motorists and the elderly didn't commit crime, they wouldn't be prosecuted. In fact I wish I was a copper so that I could prosecute elderly motorists like the obnoxious old c*nt who tail ended me last week on a dual carriageway and insisted that it was my fault as I had refused to let him out of the inside lane. The fact that I wasn't legally obliged to and that it was he who hit me up the arrse appeared to have escaped him. He looked old enough to have been at Dunkirk as well.

Elderly motorists....long may the long arm of the law harrass them into an early grave. It saves us on pensions, welfare, free this, that and the next thing and saves the lives of younger people going about their daily business
 
#11
The_Seagull said:
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
Do you ever feel as if you are p1ssing into a hurricane?
 
#12
The_Seagull said:
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
They can't be locked up for ever. Eventually they're released, at which point they are most probably going to re-offend.

What's with the outrage bus as far as this scheme is concerned? A word in the shell-like immediately prior to release: 'Right sonny here's the deal. Your picture doesn't go in the papers. Instead you're on an ASBO and you play ball. One step out of line and you're straight back. Understood?'

It's got to be better than the current cycle of offend - custody - re-offend - custody - re-offend etc etc. Bearing in mind that the offend bit is actually going to be multiple offences.
 
#13
I am not always in favour of the americans,however they do have, in some areas,this three strike rule.

Would this be useful to our cause of giving the scum what they deserve,while also having been seen to give them a chance,or even two?

Now i have pulled the pin and thrown the grenade, i am going to duck back down again.
 
#14
rickshaw-major said:
The_Seagull said:
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
Do you ever feel as if you are p1ssing into a hurricane?
Yep, it even feels like it's splashing me back in the face. :x

I know that they can't be locked up for ever but whilst they're in, they're not making peoples lives a misery and if the jails were uncomfortable enough to deter them maybe they wouldn't want to go back.

The "monitoring" of these individuals by the police and probabtion service is a joke and does nothing to deter them from commiting more crime no matter what ACPO, the Home Office, and probabtion service tries to tell you.
 
#15
The_Seagull said:
rickshaw-major said:
The_Seagull said:
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
Do you ever feel as if you are p1ssing into a hurricane?
Yep, it even feels like it's splashing me back in the face. :x

I know that they can't be locked up for ever but whilst they're in, they're not making peoples lives a misery and if the jails were uncomfortable enough to deter them maybe they wouldn't want to go back.

The "monitoring" of these individuals by the police and probabtion service is a joke and does nothing to deter them from commiting more crime no matter what ACPO, the Home Office, and probabtion service tries to tell you.

Then Seagull, what do you suggest? I would happily kill the cnuts,

but we can't. So what is your solution?
 
#16
What a good idea this is. :roll:

Numpties - Sh1tting on the many decent members of the communities in order to pander to the needs of a criminal.

Sounds to me like they're worried that the local population might give him the sentence he deserved rather than the one that was given.
 
#17
The_Seagull said:
rickshaw-major said:
The_Seagull said:
What a load of SH!TE. We should be locking the feckers up. That'll manage their behaviour nicely. Once in the pokey they're not committing any crimes against decent people.

Typical Senior Management Gobbledygook! It doesn't help that the courts won't put these recividist criminals away for any meaningful length of time.
Do you ever feel as if you are p1ssing into a hurricane?
Yep, it even feels like it's splashing me back in the face. :x

I know that they can't be locked up for ever but whilst they're in, they're not making peoples lives a misery and if the jails were uncomfortable enough to deter them maybe they wouldn't want to go back.

The "monitoring" of these individuals by the police and probabtion service is a joke and does nothing to deter them from commiting more crime no matter what ACPO, the Home Office, and probabtion service tries to tell you.
We have several on our beat.

"Good morning Mr Thieving Drug Dealing Murdering Cnut. Just calling to check you haven't been shot lastnight, nevermind... Maybe tomorrow."
 
#18
Closet_Jibber said:
What a good idea this is. :roll:

Numpties - Sh1tting on the many decent members of the communities in order to pander to the needs of a criminal.

Sounds to me like they're worried that the local population might give him the sentence he deserved rather than the one that was given.
What sort of sentence would that be then?
 
#19
A longer lasting one for a start.
 

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