Spiele für Kinder – or Zig Heil baby

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  1. A collection of nazi board games is going under the hammer at Mullock's Specialist Auctioneers this Thursday 23rd. Awful slow site/server to access, so what the catalogue states is listed below:

    “The games of Nazi Children

    The following lots are the types of board games issued by the Nazi regime aimed at ensuring that children had the right ideas about the world

    197. U-Boats attack Scapa Flow. WWII Das U-Boot-Spiel (The U-Boat Game) 1942. Board game featuring a chequer board with the outline maps of Scapa Flow , in original box, with rules (in German) apparently complete and in unused, mint condition. A game no doubt inspired by the successful destruction of HMS Royal George in Scapa Flow harbour by a German U-Boat U-47 commanded by Gunther Prien (see next lot) £100-150

    198. WWI Mit ‘Prien’ gegen England (With [Gunther] Prien against England ) 1941 board game, playing board, in original box a little distressed, with colour illustration to top showing a German U-Boat destroying a British vessel and a bw photograph of Prien shown smiling. Lacking some playing pieces, rules (in German) to inside cover of box.
    Inspired by the heroic activities of Gunther Prien, the legendary commander of U-47 which sank HMS Royal George at Scapa Flow and who became a national celebrity as a result. The board features a map of the UK with the North Sea and German mainland prominent. The ideas was a sort of ‘snakes and ladders’ played using dice and counters over a set course, from Wilhemshaven and back again. Along the way there were various advantage points and also penalty points. Scarce. £300-500

    199. WWII Fallschirmjager Spiel (The Parachutist’s Game) 1941 board game, integral playing board within original box, full colour illustration to cover showing paratroopers descending from a plane. Six original playing pieces in ‘as used’ condition and two carrier aeroplanes in good condition. Rule printed (in German) to inside of cover.
    It appears that this was a game where the lead weighted playing pieces, each featuring a paratrooper, were affixed to the ‘aeroplanes’ by a clay compound and the object was to ‘fly over’ the playing board which is covered with score numbered indentations. Clearly the object was to flick off the playing piece so that it ‘landed’ in a numbered indentation. £220-300

    200. WWII Bomber Uber England (Bomber Over England) 1940 remarkable table top ‘bagatelle’ (or pinball) style game featuring a map of the UK, northern France, Belgium and Holland , with part of Germany, and various holes in the board each assigned with a points total. Various points in the North Sea are marked, such as merchant ships, and a lighthouse (attracting various points), and various cities on the mainland. You got 30 points for hitting Hull, 60 points for hitting Aberdeen, only 40 points for Liverpool, 50 points for Birmingham and of course 100 points for London. This game was clearly produced very early in the war as France is indicated as not under German control – as you got 100 points for hitting Calais. On the other hand you lost 80 points for hitting Brussels and Amsterdam. It is most unlikely that any other examples of this game exist. £300-500
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    201. A Remarkable WWII anti Hitler Children’s Game. WWII The V Game. Original children’s game devised possibly in Belgium (though bearing a French mark of Brevete S.G.O.G. 28620P.VC.), almost certainly during WWII, and based on the concept of the V1 rocket. In original box with colour printed cartoon on the lid showing Hitler with a crown on his head sitting astride a V1 rocket surrounded by stars. Made from fairly crude card (consistent with the deprivation of the times), printed rules in French, Flemish and English to inside lid (hence our attribution to Belgium). Box a little distressed, but interior contents complete and in good order.

    A remarkable survivor, and even more so if this does in fact date from the days when Belgium was occupied.

    The idea of the game is based on a sort of ‘tiddlywinks’ principle. Each player had a spring powered ‘launcher’ and a ‘V1’ (which was a bead drilled with a hole in the middle). Inside the box was a game board, rather like a dartboard but with various round sections in concentric rings. The outer ring was worth 10 points and related to various German cities including Munich, Frankfurt, Mainz, Essen etc etc. The next ring of six sections was Berlin itself (B-E-R-L-I-N) and if your V1 landed in one of those it was worth 25 points. The next ring was devoted to the ‘Hitler Gang’ of Goebbels, Von Ribbetropp, Von Rundstedd, Von Pappen and Himmler. If you hit these it was worth 50 points. The ‘Bullseye’ was Hitler himself worth 100 points.

    The date of this game remains in doubt but it seems most probable that it was produced in wartime and under occupation – and if so would represent a remarkable act of courage by those who produced it . We would suggest that as the V1 is used as the basis of the game rather than the later V2 it would place the invention of this game at around 1944 at a time when the German occupation of Belgium was coming to an end but would have still been very real. If this is the case then the possession of the game would have been most unwise.

    We have been unable to trace any reference to this game £250-300”

    Also, a nice little pink triangle the nazis had their woollies wear.
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    Wonder how many party officials wore those, along with their tight leather shorts? :D

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    No.9
     
  2. A lot of these items for auction (especially the recommendations for awards) seem to be official documents that I would have thought should be in the PRO. As I am totally ignorant of these auctions, could some of the ARRSERs who know about these things say how they come to be in the "public domain"?
     
  3. And, the prices the board games realised:

    197 U-Boats at Scapa Flow – guide £100/150 – sold for £1000
    198 Gunter Prien against England – guide £300/500 – sold for £1250
    199 Parachutist Game – guide £220/300 – sold for £1000
    200 Bomber Over England – guide £300/500 – sold for £2600
    201 French/Belgium anti Hitler game – guide £250/300 – sold for £800

    The Pink Triangle patch (339), and the armband (340), had guides of £500/700 and £600/800 respectively. However, their final sale prices are not listed? 8O
    Price Realised.

    ”official documents that I would have thought should be in the PRO”

    There’s all sorts of documents and items that, in the opinion of many, should be owned/held by and for the ‘people’, but quite lawfully are private owned. Other than anything still deemed a surety issue, I would say there’s any number of officials who would chase down anything they could show had been misappropriated.

    No.9
     
  4. Please brief the originator of, ' Help needed - read before judgement ' thread.

    you got so much in common.
     
  5. HMS Royal George??????
     
  6. think they meen royal oak..
    nice prices though i thought they would fetch more...