Speeding Tankie gets off 108 mph

From the Sun, 15 Sep 04

108mph tank driver let-off


AN Army captain escaped a ban after speeding at 108mph on a motorway — so he can drive armoured vehicles in Iraq.
Tank commander Richard Moger, 27, would normally have lost his licence after being nabbed at that speed on the M4 in South Wales.

But he told a court it would mean he couldn’t drive British Army vehicles when he returns to Basra with the Household Cavalary.

He added: “The car I was driving was powerful and accelerated beyond the point I was aware.”

Moger, of Chislehurst, Kent, was fined £300 by JPs in Newport, Gwent, but kept his licence.

Bench chairman David Henley said: “This is a one-off. We’re convinced this won’t happen again.”

He'll be driving will he? I take it then his name will be on the workticket, that he has "Tank" on his FMT600, that when REME pick up 20 A-jobs on his tank he'll be at the front of the queue to complete them. My fat hairy buttocks he will!

He got into a powereful car and didn't realise it? Who lends out powerful cars to muppets, or was it his own and he just hadn't noticed? He drove down the M4 in South Wales(heavily policed), not aware of the speed he was doing, with plod hot on his heels and he didn't notice them ? Stupid, reckless or both? Either way sounds ideal Cavalty officer material.
Well he's lucky, most of us enlisted filth get a few points with a lovely fine or a ban, the Iraq/tank driving thing must work, lets all give that excuse for motoring offences!!
You can't have a military license without having a civvie license?

Speeding Tankie gets off 108 mph
Now had he really done it in a tank, i'd be impressed. :lol:
I'm no lawyer, but I think lying to a magistrate is called perjury. Wouldn't it be awful if someone enlightened Newport Mags :twisted:
Had he been a tom, he would have been hung for it, dropped to lower range pay if he was on higher and treated like a lepper.

This muppet wont be driving anywhere, his daddy probably belongs to the same club as the JP. Hope his CO finds a suitable way to humiliate him for the bad example he's setting :evil:

Lying in court IS perjury. He could not be taken back to court for the speeding charge again because of the double jepardy rule (can't be charged for the same thing twice), but blind-shag Blunkett is trying to get rid of double jepardy. He could go to court for perjury or contempt.

Hopefully his feature in The Sun will mean full AGAI 67 action, and I don't just mean 3 show parades!

Don't think I'm some speed-hating nazi, I've a 1000cc sports bike, a Scooby turbo, I'm a regular at the Nurburgring and I think GATSOs should be burnt, but if you get caught by plod in a car, you deserve what you get. So said the man who got caught by plod in a car while doing 118mph on the M2. PM me if you want to know what I got :wink:
This is probably just the press getting it wrong.

To command an AFV, one must have a valid FMT 600, written up with the relevant vehicle, so yes, this chap's may well say TANK (although more likely it will say CVR(T). To have an FMT, one must also have a civvi licence (although not necessarily of the relevant category - I don't have a H licence, for example.) I suspect that this was just the reporter seeing a good army story and not bothering to check up on the facts.

Now wouldn't that make a change...
Allegedly he was HCR. Of course he didn't realise how fast the car was his daddy had just bought it... and besides it was just a little high spirits before going on tour! :wink:
Come on boys and girls.....

Has anyone here never considered the option of doing the following upon blue lights appearing in their rear view mirror?.......

1. Have FMT600 secured safely covering their driving licence in the plastic licence wallet provided with the old "single sheet" licence....so that it's the first thing the nice policeman sees when he asks you if you have your licence handy? (which we all have handy at all times in our wallets/handbags due to MT rules)

2. Have their MOD90 inserted (for good measure) in the folded plastic cover mentioned above?

3. Acted soberly and completely allied to the police-persons points that they always make to you regarding your speed/driving prior to you admitting that you were listening to an up-beat tune on the car wireless and you forgot your speed for a moment?

4. Agreed with the police-person on every point and then broke down in a fit of remorse, trowing in the time honoured "oh God,my wife's going to kill me........she can't get our youngest (of five) baby to the hospital without me and my STUPID RECKLESS driving.....

5. Ask the police-person if they wouldn't mind writing a personal letter to your CO to explain that you were perfectly behaved during the incident ......just so you can retain some of your 21 years hard earned pension....

6. Mention that you are on the way home after 6 months away from your family having worked in Germany all this time (the Autobahn thing often works)(Unless you are travelling along Cricklewood road at 60mph...in which case see no. 7 below)

7. Along the lines of point 3 above.....say you were under cover and listening to "Riverdance" to give you credance, but you think that PIRA were following you (worked for me once...a while back...you may have to change music and terrorist cause to suit current situation)

8. Finally, say, "I know where you live" in a non-english accent....preferably eastern european.

Any single point above will often work, but sometimes it's also best to get on your knees and blubber uncontrolably to the finest police force in the world to let you go on your way (carefully of course)

Sh*t.....never done such a long post....hope it helps... :D
South Wales plod is not one for shite talk. Believe me i comes with experience. Cav Officer will probably buy much champers and get frightfully drunk. If he was banned he could not fulfill the role of Commander AFV. Pay drop, cannot carry on in role, transfer to infantry TA much better option.
He's been out done

205 in a 65.


WABASHA (AP) - With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.

On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.

When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.

"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27 years I'd never seen anything move that fast."

Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever written in the state.

After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100 mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license - and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods County.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.

Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.

"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
South Wales plod is not one for shite talk. Believe me i comes with experience. Cav Officer will probably buy much champers and get frightfully drunk. If he was banned he could not fulfill the role of Commander AFV. Pay drop, cannot carry on in role, transfer to infantry TA much better option.
You can feck off if you think we'd take him :evil: :evil:


Top tip:

79 mph: result: warning

79+: 3 Pts

85+ : 6 pts

92+: Summons for court

Well that was the last Home office advice I saw!
The ACPO guidelines (which are the authoritative guidelines for plod) are a bit more generous:

Limit--------Fixed Pen---Summons
20 mph-----25 mph-----35 mph
30 mph-----35 mph-----50 mph
40 mph-----46 mph-----66 mph
50 mph-----57 mph-----76 mph
60 mph-----68 mph-----86 mph
70 mph-----79 mph-----96 mph

Fixed penalty of

1. £60

2. Licence endorsed with 3 penalty points


Magisterial discretion (level 2) maximum of:

1. £1000 fine

2. Licence endorsed - range of penalty points available

3. Disqualification

4. Compulsory re-testing

Mr Happy

Booty said:
Magisterial discretion (level 2) maximum of:

1. £1000 fine

2. Licence endorsed - range of penalty points available

3. Disqualification

4. Compulsory re-testing
So what you're saying is that >96mph you're going to court and they'll fine you as much as the Judge thinks he should based on your perfornance in the dock.. Therefore ugly fat birds that don't have big tits should drive as fast as they like because they're going to get fined a thousand anyway? Sounds crazy...

Mr Happy

I knew a chap pulled early morning on the A1 in excess of 150 and he got off as long as he gave the copper a ride. It was an exceptional motor (it had raced in Le Mans two weeks earlier) and the chap was a reasonably well known sports car journo. And the copper was a petrol head of course.

My MOD90 is generally produced for any traffic infraction and Civpol waves me on 80% of the time. Doesn't work on speed cameras though, which is a real bastard.
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