Spec Ops - why?

#1
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
 
#2
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
Just bin them.
And give me my t-shirt back you pikey! :D
SP
 
#3
You could say the same about RTG's now as well.. after all we dont do morse anymore as spec-ops and neither do TG's do they ? After all a TG is a wannabe spec-op anyways ! <stands by for incoming> :)

What about radio relays and rad-ops ?

Spec-ops, in one form or the other (STG's etc) have been around for donkeys, providing ELINT and SIGINT for strategic purposes amongst other things.. and no youre not going to get a "this is what we did" tale from me...

every trade had its place.. simple as that..
 
#4
ExScaleyBleep said:
You could say the same about RTG's now as well.. after all we dont do morse anymore as spec-ops and neither do TG's do they ? After all a TG is a wannabe spec-op anyways ! <stands by for incoming> :)

What about radio relays and rad-ops ?

Spec-ops, in one form or the other (STG's etc) have been around for donkeys, providing ELINT and SIGINT for strategic purposes amongst other things.. and no youre not going to get a "this is what we did" tale from me...

every trade had its place.. simple as that..
I agree totally. There are probably very few trades who's job can't be done by another 'tri-service trade group'. If spec ops weren't around, who else would you constantly 'extract the urine' from?
 
#8
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
Someone needs to sit in the warm and dry with no heavy lifting. Worked for me! :D
 
#9
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
Are you not feeling the love from one of your radio supervisors today?

Obviously you'll have at least one in your chain of command somewhere, because the SI/EW rulebook states there must be a radio supervisor managing operations, even though they haven't got a clue what the operators are doing. :roll:

As for the simple spec op, they aren't totally useless; as has been stated in previous threads, they can be gainfully employed as chefs and drivers on exercise or operations and, once trained, they are handy to have around the setroom to make brews and escort civvie contractors etc. :wink:
 
#10
As for the simple spec op, they aren't totally useless; as has been stated in previous threads, they can be gainfully employed as chefs and drivers on exercise or operations and, once trained, they are handy to have around the setroom to make brews and escort civvie contractors etc. :wink:
The words simple and Spec Op do not go together.
 
#11
gliderpilot said:
As for the simple spec op, they aren't totally useless; as has been stated in previous threads, they can be gainfully employed as chefs and drivers on exercise or operations and, once trained, they are handy to have around the setroom to make brews and escort civvie contractors etc. :wink:
The words simple and Spec Op do not go together.
Also do you know how heavy a saucepan can be :!: I wouldn't leave the air conditioned environment to lift one :D
 
#12
I used to agree with you untill Herrick 6 just when they come out of their shell and did an awsome job. Back in barracks though they are a dab hand with a broom giving us RS Ops a 3 year break from the normal routine crap of sweeping the garages and menial tasks.
 
#13
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
What a total arrse statement. Are you saying you could do their job or that they are not established? As you obviously have no knowledge of what they do, why they do it or why they get paid so much to do it (except for maybe the 14 Sigs lot who are unique in being misemployed for a lot of the time but who are not typical of the Spec op trade) don't try fishing for info on a forum like this because you will not get an answer.
And "already-established" tri-service trade group? What a crock of sh1t. Spec Ops have been around a lot longer than you or me pal, and I did 30 years of it and have been out 11 plus they have been going a lot longer than that. Mayber you should crawl back into your little workshop, sweep up a few more leaves or paint another pointless line on the road while waiting to be gainfully employed which, for "normal" Sigs amounts to about 10% of total service time.
Your title is obviously almost correct, just change the head to brain.
 
#14
exbleep said:
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
What a total arrse statement. Are you saying you could do their job or that they are not established? As you obviously have no knowledge of what they do, why they do it or why they get paid so much to do it (except for maybe the 14 Sigs lot who are unique in being misemployed for a lot of the time but who are not typical of the Spec op trade) don't try fishing for info on a forum like this because you will not get an answer.
And "already-established" tri-service trade group? What a crock of sh1t. Spec Ops have been around a lot longer than you or me pal, and I did 30 years of it and have been out 11 plus they have been going a lot longer than that. Mayber you should crawl back into your little workshop, sweep up a few more leaves or paint another pointless line on the road while waiting to be gainfully employed which, for "normal" Sigs amounts to about 10% of total service time.
Your title is obviously almost correct, just change the head to brain.
Mate...he knows very well what a Sparecock does! It may be that you've been out of the circuit for so long now that you just don't realise how much it has become a 'non-trade' nowadays. :roll:
 
#15
Chego? said:
exbleep said:
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
What a total arrse statement. Are you saying you could do their job or that they are not established? As you obviously have no knowledge of what they do, why they do it or why they get paid so much to do it (except for maybe the 14 Sigs lot who are unique in being misemployed for a lot of the time but who are not typical of the Spec op trade) don't try fishing for info on a forum like this because you will not get an answer.
And "already-established" tri-service trade group? What a crock of sh1t. Spec Ops have been around a lot longer than you or me pal, and I did 30 years of it and have been out 11 plus they have been going a lot longer than that. Mayber you should crawl back into your little workshop, sweep up a few more leaves or paint another pointless line on the road while waiting to be gainfully employed which, for "normal" Sigs amounts to about 10% of total service time.
Your title is obviously almost correct, just change the head to brain.
Mate...he knows very well what a Sparecock does! It may be that you've been out of the circuit for so long now that you just don't realise how much it has become a 'non-trade' nowadays. :roll:
No, please don't sack it , you have 14, Digby and JSSU to man.......
 
#16
Chego? said:
exbleep said:
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
What a total arrse statement. Are you saying you could do their job or that they are not established? As you obviously have no knowledge of what they do, why they do it or why they get paid so much to do it (except for maybe the 14 Sigs lot who are unique in being misemployed for a lot of the time but who are not typical of the Spec op trade) don't try fishing for info on a forum like this because you will not get an answer.
And "already-established" tri-service trade group? What a crock of sh1t. Spec Ops have been around a lot longer than you or me pal, and I did 30 years of it and have been out 11 plus they have been going a lot longer than that. Mayber you should crawl back into your little workshop, sweep up a few more leaves or paint another pointless line on the road while waiting to be gainfully employed which, for "normal" Sigs amounts to about 10% of total service time.
Your title is obviously almost correct, just change the head to brain.
Mate...he knows very well what a Sparecock does! It may be that you've been out of the circuit for so long now that you just don't realise how much it has become a 'non-trade' nowadays. :roll:
I wouldn't say its a 'non-trade'. Their biggest problem, in my opinion, is the hierachy. So many in the hierachy that are self obsessed, self opinionated, self absorbed arrse wiping chutney ferrets that are so far up each others arrses that they haven't go the feintest idea whats really going on. Not all of them by any means, but a large number.

I hate the way these people portray the trade group and unfortunately it is always the cnuts that everyone else remembers.
 
#17
Harry_Monk said:
Chego? said:
exbleep said:
peanut_head said:
What do Spec Ops do that can't be done by other already-established tri-service trade groups?
Can they justify their existence or should the trade be binned?
What a total arrse statement. Are you saying you could do their job or that they are not established? As you obviously have no knowledge of what they do, why they do it or why they get paid so much to do it (except for maybe the 14 Sigs lot who are unique in being misemployed for a lot of the time but who are not typical of the Spec op trade) don't try fishing for info on a forum like this because you will not get an answer.
And "already-established" tri-service trade group? What a crock of sh1t. Spec Ops have been around a lot longer than you or me pal, and I did 30 years of it and have been out 11 plus they have been going a lot longer than that. Mayber you should crawl back into your little workshop, sweep up a few more leaves or paint another pointless line on the road while waiting to be gainfully employed which, for "normal" Sigs amounts to about 10% of total service time.
Your title is obviously almost correct, just change the head to brain.
Mate...he knows very well what a Sparecock does! It may be that you've been out of the circuit for so long now that you just don't realise how much it has become a 'non-trade' nowadays. :roll:
I wouldn't say its a 'non-trade'. Their biggest problem, in my opinion, is the hierachy. So many in the hierachy that are self obsessed, self opinionated, self absorbed arrse wiping chutney ferrets that are so far up each others arrses that they haven't go the feintest idea whats really going on. Not all of them by any means, but a large number.
I hate the way these people portray the trade group and unfortunately it is always the cnuts that everyone else remembers.
Are you still on about Spec Ops or the corp as a whole
 
#18
Hey

I have heard that the Spec Op role is being expanded when it is transferred to the INT CORPS so that it can take on a wider analytical responsibility acsoss the different int disciplines. This will give additional career streams for Spec Ops. The only issue that has to be resolved at the moment is how the feed to Supervisor Radio continues - but in essence the idea seems to be very sound, improving promotion, variety and career prospects.

Ed
 
#19
THE_EDITOR said:
Hey

I have heard that the Spec Op role is being expanded when it is transferred to the INT CORPS so that it can take on a wider analytical responsibility acsoss the different int disciplines. This will give additional career streams for Spec Ops. The only issue that has to be resolved at the moment is how the feed to Supervisor Radio continues - but in essence the idea seems to be very sound, improving promotion, variety and career prospects.
Ed
As was the case with the EWOP/Tele Op (Ling) trade...?! :wink:
 
#20
Chego? said:
THE_EDITOR said:
Hey

I have heard that the Spec Op role is being expanded when it is transferred to the INT CORPS so that it can take on a wider analytical responsibility acsoss the different int disciplines. This will give additional career streams for Spec Ops. The only issue that has to be resolved at the moment is how the feed to Supervisor Radio continues - but in essence the idea seems to be very sound, improving promotion, variety and career prospects.
Ed
Well they would be hard pushed to make it any worse
 

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