South Africa gone down the Zimbabwe route.

I thought they were trying to take their guns away so they couldn't put up a fight.

SA is utterly fooked and there's signs of a genocide in the making, hope Geldof, Bono and his ilk are proud of themselves.
They will be absent without leave if the plop hits the fan. As will the UN and the International community... You can be certain, if the whites did manage to put together a small disciplined force that starts to take territory all those awol will be falling over themselves to rescue the rainbow nation.
 
They will be absent without leave if the plop hits the fan. As will the UN and the International community... You can be certain, if the whites did manage to put together a small disciplined force that starts to take territory all those awol will be falling over themselves to rescue the rainbow nation.
I doubt it will happen. The only lot looking like they're going to gain from this are China (again). They've been sending money to SA and it seems to be their usual modus operandi. Friendship through investments (bribes)>loans or large infrastructure investment>host nation trapped in debt they can't pay>Selling off assets/allowing basing of PLA units/Selling off commodity rights to Chinese companies. The Saffers are very much a potential obstacle to this.

End result is they have new colonial masters, except the new lot bought them out rather than through conquest.
 
I thought they were trying to take their guns away so they couldn't put up a fight.

SA is utterly fooked and there's signs of a genocide in the making, hope Geldof, Bono and his ilk are proud of themselves.
From SAGA this week...

SAGA Release 14 November 2018
Subject: Parliamentary Question about FCA amendment

Dear Member,
On 12 November 2018, The Mercury and Pretoria News newspapers carried an article in which it alluded to Police Minister Bheki Cele's response to a parliamentary question about the recently leaked draft amendment bill to the Firearms Control Act. In this regard IT WAS REPORTED that the minister confirmed in a written response that the process to amend the Act was 'at an advanced stage.'

The Freedom Front Plus's Pieter Groenewald further asked whether Cele intended to amend the Firearms Control Act to provide for the category to possess a firearm for self-defence to be deleted. He also wanted to know the reasons for the amendment and asked to be furnished with details of the proposed amendment.

The proposed amendments, which have been roundly and vociferously debated in social media are of significant concern to all those who would choose to exercise their right to possess a firearm for hunting, sporting or self-defence reasons. Notwithstanding the fact that these proposals may indicate the thinking and end-goals of certain elements of the police and government, they do on the face of it directly impinge on specific guarantees in our Bill of Rights.

Stripping citizens in one of the most violent countries in the world of their means of self-defence (security from violence - both public and private) will most certainly not be an easy undertaking for those who seek to bring this legislation into reality. At this time, there is a groundswell of cooperation amongst the predominant firearms associations in South Africa. There will inevitably be some different approaches to opposing this nonsensical draft, but in the end we are all moving in the same direction.

While we await the publishing of the amendments we wish to assure members that all lawful measures will be employed to oppose any unreasonable legislation.

Any fight back will likely be crushed by the UN/western liberal democracies the minute it looks like it's going anywhere. Meanwhile the murders continue unabated. I have no doubt the aforementioned western powers/UN will stand by and watch a genocide take place as long as it's the minority being targeted.

The chaotic state of the country re police and judiciary unable to ensure the safety of citizens while seeking to disarm the populace is just another symptom of a failed state who have zero regard for law and order, preferring to push an agenda decided on by the ruling party rather than follow constitutional norms.

Those who saw where it was headed and voiced their concern were vilified and attacked by the more enlightened ones. Where are those enlightened ones today? Rent-a-mob and other acolytes of the right-on are conspicuous by their absence.
 
Threatened minority groups then. Of course, the minute there's a whiff of a better life elsewhere the ones doing the threatening will also want a slice of the pie.

That said, a bloke who claimed and received asylum in Canada had it withdrawn when the ANC in the form of the ruling party (read govt) threw their teddies. The Canuckistanis folded like wet shitroll and chucked him out. Chances are good the same ploy will be used should any of their future victi.... *ahem*... citizens receive asylum elsewhere.
 
Threatened minority groups then. Of course, the minute there's a whiff of a better life elsewhere the ones doing the threatening will also want a slice of the pie.

That said, a bloke who claimed and received asylum in Canada had it withdrawn when the ANC in the form of the ruling party (read govt) threw their teddies. The Canuckistanis folded like wet shitroll and chucked him out. Chances are good the same ploy will be used should any of their future victi.... *ahem*... citizens receive asylum elsewhere.
The way you talk its as if the whites in SA are prisoners, if that is true, at some point people just won't take been taking the p*** out of anymore and rise up.

Given how easily executive outcomes with a small disciplined force were able to take apart UNITA and the RUF and other small groups have shown themselves similarly effective, take a purely black ethnic group like the Rwandan Tutsis versus the French backed Rwandan Army.

Its perfectly possible, but would need leadership, does that still exist in the white community and is there enough blacks who can see the direction of travel i.e. south Africa in the toilet.
 
Not prisoners but without a whole lot of options to leave. It has been said though, that the law abiding in SA live in prisons surrounded by barbed wire, grilles and electric fences while the criminals run free.

Taking back the country under arms won't be accepted by the international community, thus a pointless exercise. The blokes who fought the wars are all getting a bit long in the tooth these days, although some are still operating and training troops to fight BH. The leadership might be there in places but it's moot due to the reasons mentioned.

Many do see the way it's headed and quite a few have already left. The majority tend to be trapped in the tribal mindset and as long as the ANC can convince them the cause of all their problems is the minority and give them empty promises, they'll keep voting the regime into power and allowing things to go down the shitter. Zim followed the same route with farms and land promised to the masses when Mugabe ran out of ideas and began losing support.



 
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Where do they go? The lady I mentioned earlier has a UK passport.Many do not.


How? The whites are having to hand over legally owned firearms to the 'authorities'.How do you suggest this coup begins?
I don't suggest anything, I am stating if it continues to get worse and worse and the exits are locked, people can only take so much.
 
And then what? The world no longer gives a shit about SA and most believe it's now a sunlit utopia with the ANC in charge. That was what they wanted and that was the dream sold to them by the western media after all.
 
And then what? The world no longer gives a shit about SA and most believe it's now a sunlit utopia with the ANC in charge. That was what they wanted and that was the dream sold to them by the western media after all.
They said the same about the tutsis of Rwanda, until Kagame marched his troops into the capital.
 
Lard,

Any chance of another Trek to the Western Cape and carving out a new Afrikaner speaking nation when everything goes tits up ? (Isn’t the area mostly Afrikaner speaking Cape Coloureds ?)
 
Nope. No chance of that and the ANC is currently packing the area with their supporters (bussing them in and letting them build squatter camps - all blamed on the mlungu natch) in order to swing the vote away from the DA who currently control the western Cape. SA is a de facto one party state and it pains the regime that even a little bit of all that lovely money isn't accessible to them.

As for Tutsis, firstly they're not a minority in the same way as whites in SA who are less than 10% of the population. Secondly, the mindset of going monkey poo and murdering everyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't sit well with white Saffers. Culturally, the tribal reaction of ganging up and burning shit isn't in them.
 
Don't put words in my mouth. Things are getting worse. What to do about it is debatable. It's too late to put the brakes on what has turned out to be the usual African train wreck. Most of the passengers are cheering the driver on and insisting he puts his foot down harder on the throttle while a few are trying to keep the whole thing from falling apart and working to make sure they and as many who can see it going pear shaped survive.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is thinking about unicorns and pretending it has nothing to do with them while looking the other way with their fingers in their ears and singing 'Lalalalalalala!'
 
Don't put words in my mouth. Things are getting worse. What to do about it is debatable. It's too late to put the brakes on what has turned out to be the usual African train wreck. Most of the passengers are cheering the driver on and insisting he puts his foot down harder on the throttle while a few are trying to keep the whole thing from falling apart and working to make sure they and as many who can see it going pear shaped survive.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is thinking about unicorns and pretending it has nothing to do with them while looking the other way with their fingers in their ears and singing 'Lalalalalalala!'
Apologies, it wasn't meant with ill will. I have a friend from Rhodesia who washed up into my old crappy comp back in the early 80s and always kept an interest in what goes on down their.

I would add its not just the whites who suffer under the ANC, as many of the blacks won't be on the payroll and getting less and less support with diminishing services and infrastructure. Politically, the whites have made political alliances, but of a conservative nature. Maybe a more socialist like entity with decent leadership could pickup support at the lowest level and counter malema.
 
Socialism appeals to the tribal nature of many, the boss being the one who does all the thinking and so on while the rest do what he says. Of course, you need to be of the right tribe or you're dead in the water. Identity politics is a very easy thing to push in Africa because of the strong tribal and cultural ties many still have, along with ingrained suspicion of those outside the tribe.

To oust the current lot and get a leader who can convince them to follow a different path where a lot of the anti west/white propaganda drummed into them by the ANC for the last 70 odd years is ignored won't be an easy task.
 
I'm doing some business in Zim now (with the state). It's getting a bit better while SA is getting worse. I've sunk 2x 1000L tanks in the back garden in CT to store water.
 

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