SON BEING DISCHARGED (ADVICE)

#1
My son joined the REME 12 months ago.
He was taken on as a metalsmith in the REME but failed a practical exam so he was going to join the signals.
Whilst out of training he got charged by the police for being drunk in charge of a vehicle ,so this has held up his move.
He has been out of training for 5 months.
His commanding officer had him in this morning and said they will have to discharge him as he has been out of training for 5 months due to the ongoing court case..
He is gutted he loves the army .
Could he possibly rejoin the army later again ?
He would quite happily join the infantry ,any advice appreciated.
 
#2
i think that your lad has had his chips,if you have been dishcharged you will not get back into any of the services,or ta ,i think he mat be hiding something as i am surprised he got dishcharged for a drink driving offence,i would ask what else he has been up to
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#3
He'd even join the Infantry? Really? He's not good enough mate.

If he can play an instrument, they might let him in the band.

(PS A stylophone doesn't count)
 
#4
Thanks for the replys.
Its not the offence thats causing him the problem ,its the legnth of time out of training .
He told me it will not be a dishonourable discharge .
When the court case is settled could he then rejoin.
By the way i did not mean the infantry as a insult just not a trade.
 
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Goku

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#6
If it’s not a dishonourable discharge then tell him to join the TA.
He should be able to transfer back to the regs if he works hard and keeps his nose clean after a period of time.
 
#7
KEVKJ said:
My son joined the REME 12 months ago.
He was taken on as a metalsmith in the REME but failed a practical exam so he was going to join the signals.
Whilst out of training he got charged by the police for being drunk in charge of a vehicle ,so this has held up his move.
He has been out of training for 5 months.
His commanding officer had him in this morning and said they will have to discharge him as he has been out of training for 5 months due to the ongoing court case..
He is gutted he loves the army .
Could he possibly rejoin the army later again ?
He would quite happily join the infantry ,any advice appreciated.
So what has he been doing for the last 5 months? Has he been at Blandford waiting for a training course, or has he been at REME training depot waiting for a move?

I tend to agree that you son might be telling only part of the story, and there are other matters being taken into account here (perhaps disciplinary matters). I'm also prepared to accept that the Royal Signals wont take him on with an impending court action against him. For all they know, they will invest in training the individual only for him to be banged up for the offence (you dont say how serious a drink driving offence it was).

Your son needs to take some advice on whether he will be able to re-inlist once his personal problems are sorted. He should speak to his RCMO (Regimental Carear Management Officer).

Oh, and slap him hard about the head for being an idiot.

Boney
 
#8
I only know what he has tod me.
The charge is drunk in charge of a vehicle not drink driving.
He has been at the reme training centre near liphhook.forget the name.
 
#9
Hmmm. So he failed his trade training? Usually he would get a second chance at a test (the army is not THAT wasteful) at a later date. He would have had to have completed his basic training before trade training, so in fact he has completed basic training, just not trade training. If he was put into a holding troop\platoon whe would be kept busy, even if it was a menial job, it sounds to me like there are other things going on here as there are people waiting up to 12 months to attend some trade courses. If he liked the army as much as he claims then maybe he can discipline himself to stay off the pop for a while, but my guess is that alcohol has more to do with the decision to discharge him than any excuse he is giving you. Ask him what other trouble he has been getting into.
 
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#11
KEVKJ said:
I only know what he has tod me.
The charge is drunk in charge of a vehicle not drink driving.
He has been at the reme training centre near liphhook.forget the name.
That's why you are being discharged mate......you're too thick.
 
#12
KEVKJ said:
I only know what he has tod me.
The charge is drunk in charge of a vehicle not drink driving.
He has been at the reme training centre near liphhook.forget the name.
He is at Bordon then mate. Very surprised as a caring parent you didn't know the whereabouts of your son though. Quite frankly though as someone said earlier there is probably more to it. For example, I once knew of a couple of Soldiers Awaiting Trade Training (SATT) who have been actually caught drink driving. These are soldiers who will have been in the same position as your son with regards to their Army career. They carried on.

At the most he may have been told to switch trades e.g. as a trainee vehicle mechanic you can't be expected to carry out the trade without the ability to drive legally. I think earlier you said he was training to be a metalsmith. My bets he would have been allowed to continue even without a licence, drunk in charge of a big hammer and a piece of tin is actually not an offence.

However, for his offence discharge does not automatically follow, it is not grounds for it either.....unless there is something he is not telling you perhaps?
 
#13
I know of several lads in your sons situation (ish) i.e. 6 months out of training who have been done for D&D and all that has happened is the lads get reduced or kept as class 3 until the ban is up. I am guessing your son as been discharged for something more serious than he is admitting or he is a problem case in his unit so they want rid and this is just the opportunity.

Dave
 
#14
Drunk in charge is drink driving.
I am very surprised that under the modern fasttrack court system for such offences he has been waiting for 5 months. In my area most people are dealt with in matter of weeks unless they are contesting the charge?
 
#15
camman said:
Drunk in charge is drink driving.
I am very surprised that under the modern fasttrack court system for such offences he has been waiting for 5 months. In my area most people are dealt with in matter of weeks unless they are contesting the charge?
I was just gonna say that! 5 months for a court case on DiC?!? Tell your son to pull the other testicle. 5 months gone means 5 months collecting evidence, interviewing witnesses and building a prosecution case! He's not telling you the full story. Suggest you wait until he comes home on weekend leave and twaat him one between the eyes, then ask him again what the charge is!
 
#16
MM sounds a tad suspicious, when I was at SEME we had a lad who had to wait 18 months for a vacancy, obviously packed him off to SAT in the meanwhile.
The 5 months doesnt ring quite true, knowing the recruiting issues in the corps, we would be hanging onto any one half decent and certainly not lose them to another corps.
Me thinks hes not quite telling the full story.
If you want me to do some investigating pm me I know most of the senior staff and have played golf with the comdt.
 
#17
Gunny Highway said:
Suggest you wait until he comes home on weekend leave and twaat him one between the eyes, then ask him again what the charge is!
By all the posts have you gathered yet that Gunnys advice is the only way forward.
 
#19
Sorry i seem to have confused you ,he has been out of training 5 months,the first ten weeks were waiting to transfer jobs from Reme to signals after failing his metalsmith course,then the drunk in charge arrived on the scene which has held any move up.
The advice he has had is to plead not guilty.
The reason i forgot it was Bordon was purely down to worry.
Maybe your right there is more to it but he swears not.,
 
#20
I was really nice and wrote you a long reply, explaining it all, then my PC went whoopee and the whole lot vanished! I'll try to get it all down again:

Three basic possibilities, here. The first is the most likely:

1. Your son has failed his recruit training and must either re-allocate or be discharged. Re-allocaiton is a simpler process than transfer, because he is still a recruit on the strength of the Army Training and Recruiting Agency (ATRA). However, re-allocation is a lot like a beauty contest and Corps are free to reject a recruit. This is common when the recruit has either (a) already failed technical training, or (b) has outstanding discipline or welfare issues. This sounds harsh, but the Corps receives a fixed number of places for recruits. They will avoid taking anyone perceived as a "bad bet" in order to ensure that their manpower remains as high as possible.

If no one accepts the recruit for re-allocation, then he must be discharged under para 9.415 of Queen's Regulations (Army) (I think that's the one; it might be 9.416), although he will be permitted to apply to re-join the Army at a later date (usually no sooner than 12 months).

2. Second option is that your son has been on a 3-Month Warning Order (3MWO). This is usually given to a soldier whose conduct or attitude has been consistently poor (and being "between training" is bad for morale and often leads to a decline in standard of conduct) and gives them 3 months to improve or face discharge. Should they commit a further offence (such as DUI!) then they can be discharged immediately.

3. Third option is that your son is facing a driving ban and no one will touch him with a barge pole, because the technical trades that interest him usually have the possession of a driver's licence as a prerequisite.

Hope that helps.

IF
 

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