Some people should be shot for stupidity

Sixty

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Just because he courageously shot someone in the back with an unlicensed firearm while they were running away once it's no guarantee that he'd do it again.
 
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It's always easier for plod to go after a householder with fixed address etc, just as a motorist who has registered with DVLA will always be an easier mark than a pikey driving an unregistered, untaxed and uninsured vehicle.
 

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The pursuit of the thieving scum will be no where near as zealous as the pursuit of Mr Martin... to much bother to bring a conviction.
It's almost like stealing stuff is viewed as less serious than killing someone. World's gone mad.
 
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And the original toe rag wouldn't have been shot if he had

a. not been a thieving scummer and

b. the police had pursued the other thieving scummers with the same vigour.

No one invited barras on to the farm. If Mr Martin could lie in wait, so could the Police. His farm was a veritable 'no-cash and carry' prior to the fatal shooting.

And let's not forget the surviving thief claimed he couldn't 'work' because of the shot in his legs... later found to be quite healthy, stealing cars and drug dealing/runnng.
 

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And let's not forget the surviving thief claimed he couldn't 'work' because of the shot in his legs... later found to be quite healthy, stealing cars and drug dealing/runnng.
And let's also not forget that murdering folk for stealing stuff is the thinking of the Bronze Age.
 

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Enlighten me as to what does work with the tavelling community then?
That doesn't make an awful lot of sense. The last people who banged on about work making people free are judged quite harshly by history.

Are you really contending that the penalty for theft should be death?
 
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Just because he courageously shot someone in the back with an unlicensed firearm while they were running away once it's no guarantee that he'd do it again.
Hasn't robbed him since though has he.
 
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What im saying is these people bring a disproportionate amount of misery to communities in comparison to their numbers, and appear to be untouchable in lots of cases.

I was simply asking you how to deal with them to teach them the error of their ways.
 
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That doesn't make an awful lot of sense. The last people who banged on about work making people free are judged quite harshly by history.

Are you really contending that the penalty for theft should be death?
Well, the papers are full of concern about repeat offenders and what are termed 'bail bandits', and it is unarguable that a man who has been shot to death will give up crime on the spot.

Judicial death penalty is a bit much though, but if householders shot them red-handed I can't say I'd be that bothered.
 

phil245

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Just because he courageously shot someone in the back with an unlicensed firearm while they were running away once it's no guarantee that he'd do it again.
AT the trial, it was proved that Mr Martin did not know that anyone had got into his house and fired the shotgun away from the window into a corner of the room, not knowing that Barras was hiding in the corner waiting to attack Mr Martin. After the shooting, Mr Martin phoned the Police and told them that he had had another break in and that he had fired his legally held shotgun, while he was phoning the police, Barras crawled out from the corner, out through the window and into a field where he bleed to death. His Partner in crime had done a runner back to their car and drove off, not caring about his 16 year old partner. The police found Barras's body in the field, after tracking the trail of blood from the corner. Barras had been hit in the back, But Mr martin did not know he was there. Barras and his partner in crime had driven over 70 miles to rob Mr Martin, It was not a case of an opportunity crime. Mr Martin should not of been put in prison for shooting Barras, but the courts decided to make an example of him because of Barras's age and the fact that the police had not been able to protect him and his property.
 

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AT the trial, it was proved that Mr Martin did not know that anyone had got into his house and fired the shotgun away from the window into a corner of the room, not knowing that Barras was hiding in the corner waiting to attack Mr Martin. After the shooting, Mr Martin phoned the Police and told them that he had had another break in and that he had fired his legally held shotgun, while he was phoning the police, Barras crawled out from the corner, out through the window and into a field where he bleed to death. His Partner in crime had done a runner back to their car and drove off, not caring about his 16 year old partner. The police found Barras's body in the field, after tracking the trail of blood from the corner. Barras had been hit in the back, But Mr martin did not know he was there. Barras and his partner in crime had driven over 70 miles to rob Mr Martin, It was not a case of an opportunity crime. Mr Martin should not of been put in prison for shooting Barras, but the courts decided to make an example of him because of Barras's age and the fact that the police had not been able to protect him and his property.
He discharged his, illegally held despite your assertion, shotgun three times.
 

phil245

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He discharged his, illegally held despite your assertion, shotgun three times.
I stand corrected, His legally held shotgun had been confiscated by the police because he had fired at people trying to break-in to his property several weeks before, He admitted that he had borrowed the shotgun from a friend who he refused to identify, because he thought that if he identified he friend, His friend would have been in the dock next to him for supplying the gun. This was why he had been getting break ins because people thought that he was not armed. If he had not been armed, would it have been him being carried away in a body-bag?. He admitted that he had fired three time on the night that Barras died, One into the corner, one into the ceiling and the last at the window.
 

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