Soldiers jailed over guns racket

#1
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
 
#2
Probably not. The old Uganda ran ashore somewhere in the Far East and got broke up and turned into razor blades in the late 80's I think. I can still hear the splish splash splosh as contraband dropped over the side! (Did a garrison tour just after the war)
 
#3
geezer466 said:
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
Unfortunately, people will do anything if they think they can make money out of it.

An interesting report from the BBC... since when did NCOs serve on a court martial? Or have I not been keeping up?

Litotes
 
#4
Litotes said:
geezer466 said:
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
Unfortunately, people will do anything if they think they can make money out of it.

An interesting report from the BBC... since when did NCOs serve on a court martial? Or have I not been keeping up?

Litotes
The court, made up of six officers and senior NCOs, sitting at the military court centre in North Yorkshire
Indeedy perhaps an army legal person can elaborate? Or have the BBC Hashed it up again?
 
#5
MadJack said:
Probably not. The old Uganda ran ashore somewhere in the Far East and got broke up and turned into razor blades in the late 80's I think. I can still hear the splish splash splosh as contraband dropped over the side! (Did a garrison tour just after the war)
It is alleged that the bottom of the docks at Liverpool must be littered with Japanese swords, for similar reasons.
 

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#7
Thought the vehicles leaving theatre got x - rayed and the same again when they docked at this end of Germany etc?
 
#8
Litotes said:
geezer466 said:
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
Unfortunately, people will do anything if they think they can make money out of it.

An interesting report from the BBC... since when did NCOs serve on a court martial? Or have I not been keeping up?

Litotes
Broken up in 1992 after being driven ashore by a Typhoon in Tiawan

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#9
It's disturbing that these clowns had stripes on their arms. It would be easier to understand if they were chavvy buckshees two minutes off a sink estate but these guys were junior NCOs. The fact that there was drug dealing involved as well is appalling.

Squaddies, and no doubt officers, have brought the odd 'toy' home from the wars or obtained them on the street since time immemorial but they had enough common sense to keep their mouths firmly shut. I only know of one other case where soldiers were so blatant in their lawbreaking - a lance jack armourer who built an SA80 (apparently) out of parts and hawked it around the lines for sale.......
 
#10
Litotes said:
geezer466 said:
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
Unfortunately, people will do anything if they think they can make money out of it.

An interesting report from the BBC... since when did NCOs serve on a court martial? Or have I not been keeping up?

Litotes
I had a couple of weeks working at a court martial centre a couple of years ago (luckily I didn't have to sit through the cases) and there were SNCO's on it then, I've no idea when it changed to allow them to do that though.
 
#11
hackle said:
MadJack said:
Probably not. The old Uganda ran ashore somewhere in the Far East and got broke up and turned into razor blades in the late 80's I think. I can still hear the splish splash splosh as contraband dropped over the side! (Did a garrison tour just after the war)
It is alleged that the bottom of the docks at Liverpool must be littered with Japanese swords, for similar reasons.
There's a fair old amount of ex-Argentine weaponry on the sea bed off Ascension Island as well. I saw one Marine throw an FN MAG over the side of an LSL in 1982.

:)

Rodney2q
 
#12
When you returned to UK by 'Medloc C ' Route from Germany/Italy/Austria post war there was a notice on the Calais -Dover Ferry stating that anyone found with guns, ammo etc. would be returned to unit.
Like Liverpool the harbour at Calais must be full of Lugers, Walthers usw.
 
#13
my father told me the same on returning to southhampton the tannoy announced a check would be carried out by the rmps.. he said you could feel the boat tilt over as everyone run to the oposite side to drop things over,,he threw a jungle carbine over the side..must take up diving..
 
#15
John_Charity_Spring said:
I only know of one other case where soldiers were so blatant in their lawbreaking - a lance jack armourer who built an SA80 (apparently) out of parts and hawked it around the lines for sale.......[/quote

I thought it was a SLR due to every weapon now having a acountable master item?
 
#16
I could only hope that the children or the childrens children of these arrseholes are cut down by gunfire in the street, using weapons provided by them of course.
Bring firearms home............you're a cursed cnut.
Its not big and its not clever.
 
#18
pupgreen said:
my father told me the same on returning to southhampton the tannoy announced a check would be carried out by the rmps.. he said you could feel the boat tilt over as everyone run to the oposite side to drop things over,,he threw a jungle carbine over the side..must take up diving..
I knew someone once who sent firearms via the BFPO postal system, ISTR him getting arrested at Hannover airport as he got off a plane from Canada..................for the life of me I can't remember his name though!!! :wink:
 
#20
Litotes said:
geezer466 said:
BBC News Link

Two soldiers who smuggled guns out of Iraq intending to sell them to army colleagues have been jailed.
Surprised these blokes had the gall to do try this!!!
Seems they have got some pretty heavy jail time for it.

Wonder where they learned how to dismantle fuels tanks or did the conspiracy stretch further?

I wonder if they have found them grenades rattling around in the Uganda's air con system from Corporate yet?
Unfortunately, people will do anything if they think they can make money out of it.

An interesting report from the BBC... since when did NCOs serve on a court martial? Or have I not been keeping up?

Litotes
Not 'senior NCOs' but 'Warrant Officers' can now sit on courts-martial

Amendment within the Armed Forces Act 2001 making warrant officers eligible in certain circumstances to sit as members of courts-martial
 

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