Soldier avoids prison due to Afghanistan

#1
Clicky

Prisons full and he avoids prison for 'affray' because he's needed in Afghanistan...... Chavs just avoid prison for the same thing because they are wasters and a drain on society...... News or Non-news?
 
#3
Man it's awfully quiet , is the outrage bus VoR'd?
 
#5
PartTimePongo said:
Man it's awfully quiet , is the outrage bus VoR'd?
Lex are doing the maintenance.

:D
 
#6
It must be PP , poor WFM I'd say. Fancy not having a spare bus available.
 
#7
glad to see that some judges do recognise that there are ways to repay one's 'debt'....

not too long ago I managed to get one of my lads off an almost certain bit of cell-time ..... his case, 3.5 times over the limit... decided to go for a little drive at 4am.... ended up sticking his car into another car, just as the owner, a police officer coming off duty, was heading home......

the judges own words 'this court recognises that there is no higher price than being called upon to serve your country on operations, therefore a tour of duty in 'the desert' is deemed worthy repayment of your debt......' ( or words to that effect)....

He was lucky yo be a good egg, hot at his job, para-trained.... was a good feeling. (OC hated me for sticking up for the lad! cnut)
 
#9
I don't like to see our lads doing time, but if he's done the crime, why not? What message does this send out to young soldiers?
 
#10
tricam said:
I think this is news... If he's guilty of affray he deserves to be disciplined - if necessary delay it until after his Afghan tour...

Tricam
What punishment would be fitting, if he came back minus a limb?
 
#11
this may sound out of place... but they way I saw the 'hierachy' approach it... the question was asked whether the guilty party 'was worth keeping or not...?' if not, he was usually hung out to dry... if he was worth keeping, then people would go the whole hog and support, pull strings where needed....

I don't know where I sit with this point of view.... its sounds like very murky water to me.
 
#12
Whats new about a squaddie using his job to get out of trouble?
I remember getting chased by the bundespolizei back in 89 after driving through a speed checkpoint at bout 80mph through a 80kmh zone.Must have been a couple of k's and the guard on our gate let me in but wouldnt let the boxhead in hehe..
When it went to the CO i used the old "I was followed" all the way from frankfurt by a vehicle 2 up at speed so i booted it all the way back.
Fcuck stopping!
My motor was conditionally held at the guardroom car park for 7 days. :lol: Thank god for Opel rekords
 
#13
My point was, he got off a custodial sentence because he was going on tour. A chav gets off anyway, no tour required, in fact, no job, no money, no use to society at all.

Seems a little off to me. :?
 
#14
jinxy said:
tricam said:
I think this is news... If he's guilty of affray he deserves to be disciplined - if necessary delay it until after his Afghan tour...

Tricam
What punishment would be fitting, if he came back minus a limb?
For affray as a SNCO about three months should do it. He is just bl00dy lucky that the Beak took this view. His behaviour in down town Shrewsbury has got fcuk all to do with what he does or does not do in Helmand.
 
#15
You got a point, personally I think they should bring back the town stocks for such scrotes..
Put em on show, humiliate them degrade their stupid little pathetic world leave em chained up in Y fronts outside their old shcool, that sort of shite.
 
#16
Well if anybody knows shrewsbury then they will know that this sort of shite happens all the time so its nothing new and as plant said most scum get off with nothing and they dont serve in our armed forces nor do they care bout em.
So in short, if he got away with causing a little stir in shrewsbury which is actually very near where i live and is basically wrecked by chavs most weekends.
yeh if you think about it the very fact that it has reached the papers is proof enough that he wont be getting off so lightly.
Regiments have to be seen to be doing something about it.
 
#18
Plant-Pilot said:
Clicky

Prisons full and he avoids prison for 'affray' because he's needed in Afghanistan...... Chavs just avoid prison for the same thing because they are wasters and a drain on society...... News or Non-news?
Matbe news....Maybe not.


Should we have a two-tier system? Sure. Why not? We always used to and we didn't lose many wars doing it as I recall.

I'd say sentence each according to their worth when the alternative is removing them from society to a place they can contribute nothing meaningful at all. (Unless wiring plugs or making car number plates is considered a worthwhile alternative to handling explosives on the front-line in Afghanifukcingstan.)
Seems the judge also said Sergeant Neil Middleditch had the best references he had ever seen and depriving the army of his experience could put other soldiers at risk. Considering some of the numpties we get for judges nowadays, it's a refreshing change to hear of one using actual common-sense.
Sergeant, pay your fine, spend a month or two ironing pissy-smelling pants in the Oxfam shop, then solder on like the man we're all proud of for doing what you do on our behalf.
 
#19
If you read Albert Pierrpoint's memoirs, he said that during WW II juries where reluctant to convict soldiers of Murder (and an appointment with Mr P) and preferred to let them go to take their chance on duty.
john
 
#20
The Sgt didn't get involved until his brother was attacked according to the

report.

Good on the Judge for showing some common sense. Two tier system?

Maybe, but I am all for them as far as serving soldiers are concerned.

In my time, if a bloke came up for affray, he was offered the option of

the nick or the Recruiting Office. We were not looking for Brain Surgeons.

I hope the Sgt has a safe tour.
 

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