Not intending to deploy the Outrage Bus here (its VOR, semi-symmetrical foo-foo valve mk2 mod1 is Dues Out), but I came across this story via a blog (I'm not normally a Mail reader, honest Guv) Part1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078824/Couple-trying-save-grandchildren-council-care-banned-seeing--speaking-MoS.html Part 2 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1076713/Leave-grandchildren-How-troubled-children-separated-loving-grandparents.html As a parent it troubled me and I felt quite sorry for all those involved, especially the children. However some more disturbing thoughts struck me, (as this is not an area I have really any direct dealings with them or much interest in how they operate). So allowing for journo license, even though these people took their MP/Barrister and a journalist to the meeting they were still fobbed off because they wonât âco-operateâ which in this field means âdoing as you are toldâ. I find it worrying that Social Services tried to dissuade them from taking their MP to the meeting by way of a veiled threat of disclosing information. Then criticised them in a letter for involving their MP in the matter. Surely thatâs why we have elected representatives? Panorama also did a documentary about Norfolk Social Services and Mark and Nicky Webster. They were accused of abusing their 3 children, and after a single closed hearing lasting a day they were removed and adopted within 6 months. As a sad follow up, they had a 4 child, the SS tried to take that one too, they fought the council in the high courts, won, had there other accusations quashed on appeal, but because their children had now been adopted they canât get them back. Now I realise that Child protection is a sadly necessary evil, and they have done some really good work in recent years, from Cleveland in 1987 through to Victoria Climbie. But even after a little further reading there just seems to be no accountability. The adage of - innocent till proven guilty, seems totally alien to them. The Family Courts conduct their business in secret. Everywhere else we are being made to account for our actions constantly. The Police are more accountable and controlled than ever, in the services you can seek a redress. But Social Workers seem to be able to make judgements and you are not able to challenge their veracity, they simple hide behind a wall of bureaucracy and obfuscation and refuse to answer your questions. I am yet to see even an apology from the SS in any case they have mishandled. I am hoping that I am actually wrong about all of this, and these cases are very, very rare. Either way the question it left me with was, god forbid â If I was in their position what would, or what could, I do about it?â It left me feeling very, very uneasy.