social worker (courses needed)???

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  1. hi i am due to be discharged from the army under medical conditions, i am a infantry platoon sargent with 14years service.
    i have trained young soldiers at training depots and have donesome time working in the regiments welfare office, plus a lot of other qualifications. however i am looking to persue a career in social care working with disadvantaged children and am wondering what courses i need in order to work in social care.


    regards
     
  2. Have you done your IRP at the PRAC in Catterick yet? Have you registered with the RFEA for placements?

    I'd carry on, but apparently I'm talking out of my arrse.
     
  3. You might want to see where the vacancies are and also decide exactly what role you hope to fill and then tailor the courses to suit.

    Some will be drowning in grad students, which is just what they need, but others may be crying out for someone with your kind of experience.

    All the very best of luck with it, tho.
     
  4. Bad luck on the med discharge, and It'll be further or higher education in the civilian world mate. Don't think it has to be a full Bachelors though, but I would check out a further education college near where you'll be settling if you know that yet. Also, not to be rude but you'll need to improve your grammar and spelling. Good luck.
     
  5. Which is why he needs to register with the RFEA.

    Hollis, PM me if you want. I'll be at the PRAC in Catterick on Monday doing some really dull Maths shit if you want to have a look around.
     
  6. A short, totally subjective insight - with some things to think about.

    Prepare to be surrounded by bigger knob ends than you can ever imagine..i.e. imagine all the shite OC's/RSM's/total feckwits who have been in a position of power over you...imagine total self centered/hidden agended/useless cnuts who can have you suspended within secs of them 'imagining' that you have said something/done something/not followed the party line...had an indepedant thought.

    Imagine having to work with cared for young people from shite homes/environments and getting them into a safe unit/signed on in college and seeing real progress then seeing the funding cut/reduced because their behaviour has 'improved' therefore they don't 'require the level of care anymore'.....read the book 'Catch 22', then read it again.

    It's really not like bringing on and developing a platoon of young soldiers, while doing that you have a big support network and an even bigger stick if needed ...be prepared to see parents who are total mongs, both literally and in their deeds.....be prepared to see doctors and solicitors kids who are as damaged as the children of drunken, drug addicted sluts.

    Be prepared to meet fathers who have sexually abused their own children, starved them, beat them, yet who cannot see anything wrong with it...be prepared to be called every anger inducing name that you've ever heard repeatedly, for days and weeks at a time ....and having to deal with complete and total disrespect from siblings and so called adults......be prepared to have all kinds of allegations made against you...which will lead to a suspension/Police cautions and taped interviews before the investigations finds no case to answer and the Cops saying 'Sorry about that, but I guess it's an occupational hazzard with your job eh?' Remember that it is the dregs that you are dealing with. Be prepared to learn all about other cultures and act accordingly while the same people that you are dealing with have total contempt for yours, your skin colour or beliefs.

    The above is just a few of the real issues that I had to deal with. Spent four years doing it after qualification before I re upped. Mainly working with young people from inner city London and the outskirts. Went into it with the idea that these kids were just like I could have turned out without a loving Mum, family,etc to guide me. I thought that with kindness and a bit of time/understanding/empathy/give and take, I'd help them turn into half decent people.

    Found out that I did make short term gains and did give them a better example than what they'd had before but it took it's toll. Has to sit and wonder why that 13 year old who was in care for knifing another 13 year old who had stolen his bike, was being taken to centre parks..then realised that he was just really a scared little boy who did want to get away from his shite life.
    Be prepared to sit in a court room and hear lawyers and judges and child shrinks, who had never been where you'd been, talk b*ll*xs about a little kid who had more in common with you than anyone else in the room.

    You can find yourself surrounded by people/colleagues/professionals who do not share your desires to make a difference/do not have the discipline and/or honesty or mind set. Being ex Forces, your standards and values are on another planet.


    It's a noble idea and not all bad, but often is worse than you thought and does effect your own home life. Good luck......tbh, maybe going into Teaching would be a better choice but to qualify without a degree can take you 5 years?..even Dipsw will take you 4 years or did then?.....my route involved Voluntary Youth work - paid youth work - bank work at a children's home while studying - voluntary lay assessor of Childrens homes - etc.

    Don't know too much about Troops to Teachers but you can bet your life there's barrier for the likes of a Platoon Sjt.


    Crack on mucka, hopefully someone else on here will paint another/better picture of it all.....It was an experience and had some good days, but you can't pay me enough to do it again.
     
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  7. Welcome to the wonderful world of youth work Hollis. As to what courses are needed, well I guess social work/community services/youth work or psychology are good for starters, but the biggest course you can take is in life itself! I have now 7 years experience in the youth sector, have none of the above qualifications, what I have is life experience, a degree of no relevance to the sector in which I am working, and extensive work experience across various industry sectors and countries. The experience you bring, x forces etc., will put you in great stead.

    What Nato said is true, you have to put up with a lot in this industry, we are not the best paid and conditions are far from ideal, but, if you believe you can effect positive change in the lives of young people you will be successful. I'll be honest with you, my successes have not come from soft soaping youth or their parents, you need to challenge them at every turn....and if that means a heavy handed approach you do it. By and large people who burn out in the industry can't tell fact from fiction, and believe me youth are the most adept manipulators in the game. Never let them pull the wool, always think outside the square and believe in your own gut instinct. I have had every story in the book hurled past me and it has never washed.

    If you have any youth organisations in your part of the world that challenge youth, and mean it, go for them. Don't be put off by people who think every kid has been hard done by, in my experience youth can often be their own worse enemy, and in overcoming barriers of whatever nature they will be successful. If you are planning to work with the very young (under 11) all I can say is be prepared for all that you will see and hear. If you chose to work with teens and young adults (this is my favourite client base) expect a rollercoaster ride, with more often than not, significant light at the end of the tunnel. Don't take your work home with you, you will find that it has an adverse effect on your loved ones. Every good organisation involved in this field will offer full debriefs, use them as it will spare your family and friends a good deal of grief.

    The client base in youth work is varied. You will get people who are severely disturbed, bi polar etc., violent tenancies, substance abuse, over medicated, LL&N issues, people who suffer from inertia, abuse victims, and those who are just plain lost. Know that there are other specialist agencies out there to refer to for bad cases...and use them. Overall at the end of the day, when a young person decides to tackle their issues and turns their life around...well you will never experience a feeling like it, that is when you know you have done your job :).

    Good luck to you, and if I can help in any way just let me know...pm is always open.
     
  8. Troops to Teachers seems to still be a pipe dream, but why do you think a Plt Sjt would be in some way barred?
     
  9. I do beleive there is a resstlement fair in the musket club, colchester end of teh month, might be worth phoning the AWS for dates. 30Th springs to mind, but it is early
     
  10. No real factual info tbh. I just had a very quick look see at the original idea and the entry routes, and thought that it seemed geared to degree qualified bods or those whose background and alledged management skills were deemed 'acceptable' to civvies i.e. mainly orrifices, in that there are still many misconceptions about SNCO's being just big shouty men and this not what the cotton wool wrapped children require to help them 'progress'.... I'm happy to be corrected though as I may be talking shite?....not for the first time!
     
  11. With 23+ years as a social worker in Canada's largest city and experience on all types of caseloads, from families, to addicts, to chronic homeless, to refugees etc. I can echo NATO Standards comments on the what the job entails and I'm sure it's not too diffeent on this side of the Atlantic.

    Ironically the skill sets I picked up as a Snr NCO are more beneficial to me in my present job than much of the formal edcuation I have (the specialized training on addicitions, domestic violence, mental health issues, employment counselling etc. aside). Work etchic, common sense, problem solving, and the ability to remain calm and professional irregardless of the situation are of prime importance.

    Not sure how the retraining wroks over there to get your qualifications, but there appear to be some good sources of info here. Good luck, it's a fustrating but at times rewarding profression especially when you do "win one."
     

  12. 23 years of it? ....Good for you mate, hope that you drink lots of alcohol to 'ease the pressure'.
     
  13. Oh the 18 years in uniform saw to that long before. I didn't realise I'd been here so long. 23 Years as of Feb 2012. it seems like just yesterday I went in to apply to get a welfare cheque and got in the wrong line and was hired.
     
  14. Some excellent advice sorry I not been able to reply earlier but I have been having issues.
    I still not been med discharged yet and I have not done any resettlement and to be fair will probably be looking at another year to get my quals sorted.

    Again cheers everyone