Social welfare a Polish charity?

In IT Judge apologises for saying social welfare a Polish charity by GENEVIEVE CARBERY
A DISTRICT court judge has apologised over a remark she made in court suggesting that social welfare was a Polish charity.

Judge Mary Devins yesterday issued a statement through the Courts Service to clarify a comment made in court in Castlebar last Friday.

The judge made the remark while hearing the case of a trainee plumber over a public order offence in which the man had called an Irish security guard a “fat Polish f***er”.

Enda Moylette, of Derrycoorane, Islandeady, Castlebar, had pleaded guilty when his case was heard several months previously by Judge Conal Gibbons.

Judge Gibbons had adjourned it to a sitting on Friday last after he ordered the man to save up and pay €1,000 to a Polish charity in lieu of a conviction and a fine.

The case returned before Judge Mary Devins last Friday.

When the question arose at Friday’s court hearing over whether there was a Polish charity in Ireland, Judge Devins remarked: “A Polish charity? There is. It’s called the social welfare.”

Judge Devins issued a statement yesterday after the remarks were reported in some Co Mayo newspapers.

She said that the “recent comment in court was made in the context of – and alluding to – another recent, violent, alcohol-fuelled incident”.

The incident had involved “several defendants of Polish origin who were all recipients of social welfare payments”, she said.

The comment was “intended to be specific to that incident and occurrence and was never intended to offend any community, or members of any community”, she said.

“If insult was taken from my comment I apologise for same,” she added.

At Moylette’s court hearing some months previously Judge Gibbons had described the accused man’s abusive remarks as “quasi-racist comments”.

Judge Gibbons said he could not have people going around expressing these sort of ideas and that these views had to be stopped in their tracks.

Judge Devins’s remarks have provoked many comments on social media and online discussion forums in support of the growing Polish community in Ireland.

For the first time there are more Polish nationals living in the State than UK citizens, figures from the 2011 census found.

The number of Polish nationals in Ireland has grown by 94 per cent since 2006. Polish – with 119,526 speakers – was the foreign language most spoken in the home, the census found.
Last I looked Irish poverty risks were still lower than in the UK for both employed and jobless, in fact the UK has a comparable rate to Poland where as the Irish risk of being in poverty is close to Germany. The UK is one of the harshest environments in the EU for the bottom decile, the cost of living is high (unlike Poland) and benefits are amongst the lowest in the EU, it also has an inscrutable and complex benefits system that takes some mastering.

I'm familiar with Poland, it's and up and coming country but the incentives for youth migration are huge given the high differentials in the EU. A lot of Poles are also now familiar with Ireland and despite high unemployment may prefer to scrape along the bottom there occasionally doing the double. They are obviously filling lots of low wage jobs and now outnumber Brits living there despite the frequent family connections with the larger island.

Irish unemployment is about double the UK levels but given the poverty risk differentials what I find a little strange is there aren't more long term unemployed Brits heading to the RoI to be called a fat Brit ******? They speak roughly the same language, it's not wildly different from home and the benefits are even now significantly better. A diligent chap can even live up near the border and claim on both sides. I can only conclude they are too lazy to better their condition or have not yet despaired of finding work.
An interesting development my Mother tells me of is Poles coming back to Ireland with some of that money they put aside during the 'Gold Rush' and buying up cut price proprties to rent to the locals.

Say what you will about the polish lads, they are hard workng and enterprising. I can remember driving in from the station to the mothers place at stupid early O'clock in the morning during the good times.

There's all the Poles

How do you know they're Poles?

Sure our lads won't be up out of bed yet!
An interesting development my Mother tells me of is Poles coming back to Ireland with some of that money they put aside during the 'Gold Rush' and buying up cut price proprties to rent to the locals.
Mate of mine from Warsaw has been doing that for a group of Polish brickies who were over during the boom. Buying into well chosen ghost estates for peanuts, sending the boys over to live-in renovate for a share. I'm sure not one is doing the double, one of a long list of his dodgy dealings.

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