Social media is it Toxic Bubble...

Funnily enough I've just finished listening to this.

Left leaning, anti-Trump supporter opens up a dialogue with both the left & right and one side are not happy and want him stopped.

Guess which side?
The oppressive white supremacist right or the loving, everyone is equal left?

First to guess correctly wins a lifetime vacation in a Siberian Gulag.
The sort of people who thought the article by Titania McGrath on Brexit was real...
Her own path to wokeness was inspired, “by the story of Jesus attacking the money-lenders in the temple. I did a similar thing when I was four years old in my local branch of HSBC. Believe me, it took them several minutes to pick up all those pens from the floor”.

Like Him, she would heal the world broken by Brexit: “Brexit has shown conclusively that democracy doesn’t work. In any case, only 1,269,501 more people voted to Leave than to Remain. No serious mathematician would consider that any kind of “majority”.

Her solution is a referendum to decide how to execute the leading Brexiteers – “eg hemlock, fire” or drowning them in liquids produced by Emily Thornberry. Leave voters, meanwhile, “should be branded on the forehead with the word “gammon”. They should not have access to housing, employment, or running water. That should teach them a lesson.”

For Titania, Theresa May is “the antiChrist”. (The other great threats to our security, she writes, are limericks and Crufts). She has more time for Anna Soubry – “she has the courage to ignore the wishes of her constituents when they vote the wrong way” – and for Jeremy Corbyn because he is “a good friend of Stormzy” and “adores grime music”. She is equally optimistic about the Independent Group: “They understand that working-class people don’t know what is best for them, and they’re brave enough to do something about it”.
 
It would seem that historical Twittering has bounced back to bite yet another 'celebrity' in her (admittedly, rather pert) arse:

'Actress Shila Iqbal has been fired from Emmerdale over historic offensive tweets, ITV has confirmed.

The star, who played Aiesha Richards on the soap, was only made a series regular at the end of March.

She said she was "terribly sorry" for using "inappropriate language" in tweets sent in 2013, when she was 19.

"As a consequence of historic social media posts, Shila Iqbal has left her role as Aiesha Richards on Emmerdale," a spokesperson for the show said. . . '

Emmerdale star fired over old tweets
 
*in a small voice* oh, ffs:

'A growing number of people with epilepsy have said they are having seizures triggered by flashing images on social media, a charity has warned. The Epilepsy Society wants the government's new plans to tackle "online harms" to recommend warnings about flashing images on social media.

More than 18,000 people in the UK are thought to have epilepsy that can be triggered by photosensitivity.

The charity says cyber-bullies post malicious content intentionally. . . '

Social media 'triggering more seizures'

Oh, the humanity . . .
 
Nicked off Kaspersky's blog....
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Anything by Bruce Schneier is worth reading.

Toward an Information Operations Kill Chain

For anyone unfamiliar with it, The Cyber Kill Chain is a model used to think about Cyber threats (one model about how people conceptualist the hacker threat; it doesn't matter whether it is the kid in the back bedroom or advanced nation state capability)

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Schneier has proposed a model of how this could be considered for Information operations;

Step 1: Find the cracks
in the fabric of society—the social, demographic, economic and ethnic divisions.
Step 2: Seed distortion by creating alternative narratives. In the 1980s, this was a single “big lie,” but today it is more about many contradictory alternative truths—a “firehose of falsehood”—that distorts the political debate.
Step 3: Wrap those narratives in kernels of truth. A core of fact helps the falsities spread.
Step 4: (This step is new.) Build audiences, either by directly controlling a platform (like RT) or by cultivating relationships with people who will be receptive to those narratives.
Step 5: Conceal your hand; make it seem as if the stories came from somewhere else.
Step 6: Cultivate “useful idiots” who believe and amplify the narratives. Encourage them to take positions even more extreme than they would otherwise.
Step 7: Deny involvement, even if the truth is obvious.
Step 8: Play the long game. Strive for long-term impact over immediate impact.
(Incidentally, Firehose of Falsehood is a RAND report on Russian InFo ops worth reading).
 
Anything by Bruce Schneier is worth reading.

Toward an Information Operations Kill Chain

For anyone unfamiliar with it, The Cyber Kill Chain is a model used to think about Cyber threats (one model about how people conceptualist the hacker threat; it doesn't matter whether it is the kid in the back bedroom or advanced nation state capability)

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Schneier has proposed a model of how this could be considered for Information operations;



(Incidentally, Firehose of Falsehood is a RAND report on Russian InFo ops worth reading).
Sadly these are not new concepts just a new delivery method, I have mentioned before that I 'Tin Foil Hat' on... The Cold War fire and forget tactics of the Soviets are paying off in spades today 'Tin Foil Hat' off.

The classic interview by Yuri Bezmenov : Deception Was My Job


Lays it out, although that itself could have been a deception... However the old and the bold Cold War warriors and children of the 'Winter of discontent' would think you a bit thick. Vlad is a cockweasal but he is not controling as much of the present as we give him credit for, he though is happy to accept it, Russia today is not a communist state seeking to spread absolute communism across the globe we have another ideology that is seeking that instead, But that's another risky conversation.

The march through the institutions, from the 50's onwards, that seems to have focused on firstly the dumbing down of education together with its own switch towards indoctrination rather than critical thinking plus the technology advances that allow near instantaneous worldwide communications only add to the increase of useful idiots.

Add to that the social switch from the family unit based on 'taking responsibility' to one that knows all its rights and entitlements, is perhaps why the western world now has a younger cohort seeking to embrace 'Communism' although it is dressed up as cuddly socialism... 'Just one more go' this time it wont produce death camps and re-education.

Lastly there has been almost a half century where the majority of youth has not had to endure conflict or war fighting other than those who volunteer, and with no home front to effect some levels of hardship also. That of course precludes those of us on ARRSE that served since 'national service' ended and there family's, small in number though when viewed sociality.

The political class of both left and right, have in many cases no spine or core ideology and with the centre having moved increasingly to the left over the last 30 years, it would seem that anyone to who dissents is 'Extreme Right Wing Fascist. Add a disconnected populace and a media that over values its own worth, and one that increasingly creates rather than report news are not a good recipe.

Even those who hate "Orange Man Bad" should reflect on the fact that despite the cries of him seeking to create a 'Fascist State' America still has the first amendment while Europe has nothing comparable and free speech is under attack, in a manner never seen in the west outside of the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

I do not believe 'Social Media is the cause or is inherently bad, because as with many problems created by tech its the end user who is the problem... Buckle up folks, its not going too improve soon, and at the risk of being seen as 'Cassandra' it wont be fixed until... Fcuk it you know.


p.s. I don't have kids as many of you know, those of you that do well you have my sympathy, they are in for a rough time.
 
Sadly these are not new concepts just a new delivery method, I have mentioned before that I 'Tin Foil Hat' on... The Cold War fire and forget tactics of the Soviets are paying off in spades today 'Tin Foil Hat' off.

The classic interview by Yuri Bezmenov : Deception Was My Job


Lays it out, although that itself could have been a deception...
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Excellent post.
A simple example.
About 3 years ago I described myself as a fascist the same as Jesus.
I got a reply saying that getting the correct twine was becoming difficult. ie my comment was understood.
A month ago I made the same statement and the less intelligent (croutons) immediately took it as evidence I was racist.
This dumbing down and changing definitions/history is everywhere.
The Long March through the Institutions is indeed paying off.
How much of it was involved in the Extinction rebellion would be interesting. a real cause but it is totally incorrectly aimed.
 
@halo_jones

If you liked that documentary, I really do recommend you read this.

Messing with the Enemy: Surviving in a Social Media World of Hackers, Terrorists, Russians, and Fake News by Clint Watts

His most recent work on Advanced Persistent Manipulators (a pun on Advanced Persistent Threat, ie hacking groups) just went up here.

Advanced Persistent Manipulators, Part Two: Intelligence-led Social Media Defense – Alliance For Securing Democracy

He is worth follwoing on al-Twitter -

Clint Watts (@selectedwisdom) on Twitter
 
@halo_jones

If you liked that documentary, I really do recommend you read this.

Messing with the Enemy: Surviving in a Social Media World of Hackers, Terrorists, Russians, and Fake News by Clint Watts

His most recent work on Advanced Persistent Manipulators (a pun on Advanced Persistent Threat, ie hacking groups) just went up here.

Advanced Persistent Manipulators, Part Two: Intelligence-led Social Media Defense – Alliance For Securing Democracy

He is worth following on al-Twitter -

Clint Watts (@selectedwisdom) on Twitter
I have given up to a degree reading, or studying what is going on... Sadly as I have said before in many threads and PM's to some of the many ARRSE smartypants. Its a multi facet problem that has both simple and complicated answers, BUT you cant cure something if the patient wont accept help. To expand on that analogy a simplistic look at cancer chemotherapy 'cure' works by almost killing you too hopefully to destroy the damaged cells before you go toe's up.

The 'Left' and I don't care any more too let the soft Left off the Hook either, have worked to denigrate and corrupted thinking, language and conversation to the level where wrong think is a daily game of 'wack a mole'. I think its clear that you know I don't particularly like supremacists or any sex, class, race or religion but they have the right to speak they have the right to be bigots, they have the right to dissent within the law. Or at least they did until the last few years, and the acceptance of the nebulous 'Hate Speech Laws' as a real thing. Personally I want them in the open thus I can ignore them, or try to change their minds with civil discourse.


Free Speech works is why the BNP tanked after the Question Time episode with Nick Griffin. The Left though protested that being broadcast and wanted him deplatformed, too protect the 'wider public' which tells you all you need to know about the so called anti fascists. Words are not violence and incitement to violence has always been an offence, based on credible threats, intent and direction.

Hurt feeling and bad taste are not a case for the police or judiciary, The politicisation of the Police has seen that change though because of the weakness of the senior ranks, opportunist politicians and useful idiots in many cases using the guise of charities and the like who see either a buck to be made or an agenda served.

A Society that has a core classical western liberalist ideology based on the rule of equal justice under law, that balances civic and personal responsibility against rights, overseeing that balance but not incessantly changing it, will see a situation where bad ideas wont take root. Once the system of accepted law though is undermined by the institutions of the state then wider society is one step away from conflict.


I wish I was younger and less disabled. as when it kicks off, though i would rather be wrong on that. I could have a direct hand in fixing things, it is what I, you and many others have trained for, are reasonably good at doing it and importantly understand that its not always pleasant, but need to be done by those who can.

service guarantees citizenship.

Fcuk it time to hit the Jim Beam. :roll:

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Excellent post.
A simple example.
About 3 years ago I described myself as a fascist the same as Jesus.
I got a reply saying that getting the correct twine was becoming difficult. ie my comment was understood.
A month ago I made the same statement and the less intelligent (croutons) immediately took it as evidence I was racist.
This dumbing down and changing definitions/history is everywhere.
The Long March through the Institutions is indeed paying off.
How much of it was involved in the Extinction rebellion would be interesting. a real cause but it is totally incorrectly aimed.
The like was for the text in bold. Good points but I'm not a scholar of any religion. Does that statement make you racist? No. Benito Mussolini wasn't a racist and neither was his fascist party, at least prior to the pact with Hitler, who wasn't a true fascist but much nastier. Race protection vs race elimination.

The BBC showed some teachers protesting in Parliament Square this morning. There were two identical Che Guevara placards behind them, which the BBC camera zoomed in on, so there is no mistaking the fact that a well dressed lady was a communist. Carl Marx has frequently been featured on BBC as a hero/genius. In the 80s you might encounter communists and Militant types.

A few decades later and some otherwise very intelligent and logical professionals attitude to communism was "sure, why not?", as they had not tried it and in their perspective the current set up wasn't working. As you say, the long march through the institutions...

Murder, starvation, what? Many millions of deaths are so long ago they can't relate to them
 
. . . . . p.s. I don't have kids as many of you know, those of you that do well you have my sympathy, they are in for a rough time.
I was thinking along a similar vein recently.

I've spoken a lot with my two and they both seem fairly grounded and are looking at things critically. Even my boy who is nuts deep in a crazy vegan with the most intolerant family imaginable seems to have a level head on his shoulders and can see through the bullsh!t. They tried to induct him to their ways with leaflets and the like and he quite nicely dealt with it by saying "I know you are concerned about these things, that's good for you but personally I don't care about it like you do."

They don't use buzzwords and labels for everything I'm saying and if they ever did react to an off-colour remark I'd made I would take the time for them to explain to me why they think that way. I've never lectured them but instead I give them their day in court. they can put the case forward and it would be reasoned through.

It all sounds more grandiose than it was in reality, I was just trying to let them exercise some critical thinking. I'm fairly happy that it seems to have stuck.

I then look at the way society is moving and do wonder what it will be like when they raise their own children, if they ever do. Going by what I'm seeing around me I believe it's not going to be pretty my only consolation, and it's a small one, is thinking that they've grown up in this climate and are less fazed by it.






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The like was for the text in bold. Good points but I'm not a scholar of any religion. Does that statement make you racist? No. Benito Mussolini wasn't a racist and neither was his fascist party, at least prior to the pact with Hitler, who wasn't a true fascist but much nastier. Race protection vs race elimination.

The BBC showed some teachers protesting in Parliament Square this morning. There were two identical Che Guevara placards behind them, which the BBC camera zoomed in on, so there is no mistaking the fact that a well dressed lady was a communist. Carl Marx has frequently been featured on BBC as a hero/genius. In the 80s you might encounter communists and Militant types.

A few decades later and some otherwise very intelligent and logical professionals attitude to communism was "sure, why not?", as they had not tried it and in their perspective the current set up wasn't working. As you say, the long march through the institutions...

Murder, starvation, what? Many millions of deaths are so long ago they can't relate to them
WWI 10 million deaths.
Influenza epidemics of 1918-19 50 -100 million deaths.
WWII 81 million deaths.
The hard left in the 20th C 120 -150 million deaths.
Carl Marx, makes Genghis Khan look like a Saint.
Or more correctly his followers do.
 
Hopefully 'Flatpacked' by drone...

Sadly the underling supremacist ideology is not so easily got rid of.
He was I think only the second targetted killing admitted to by HMG.

The Islamist ideology is another matter, see my posts passim ad nauseam......
 
@Boumer and all reading this thread, :smile: Because social media 'Stuff' at the moment is so focused on negatives...

full screen it, relax and sit back with a brew and cigarette if thats your poison. There are subtitles if so minded

Although I think the 'Extinction Rebellion' folk's would stone him to death for comitting 'Carbon Crimes' :razz:
 
I quite like "primative" skills.

If I had to disconnect from the Net, I would quite happily resort to living as a hunter gatherer in the post skynet-apocalypse.

Got a signed Ray Mears autobiography on the bookshelf, next to my Loft Wiseman survival manual. I remember as a scout drooling over a mate's copy of that book, as a bunch of us in a tent obviosuly needed to know how to kill a polar bear that was going to walk through the field we were camping in.

If I can get my copy of this signed too, I shall be very chuffed.

Essential Bushcraft by Ray Mears
 

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