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In The Indy Labour facing complete political annihilation in Scotland as poll reveals party could win as few as four seats

Pretty drastic polling:
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Could change a great deal but clearly the SNP have gained a huge boost thanks to secession's voter mobilization effect. The SNP in its rather similar insurgency against the Westminster elite may have become Labor's UKIP.

Special Ed loses 37 seats, Lib Dems also wiped out losing 9 seats, 54 SNP seats! Must be Music to Dave's ears however if that pans out it could make the Tartan Tories a Westminster kingmaker in 2015.

Now what does that mean for Dave's duplicitous bit of post-referendum Sweaty bashing English Votes For English Laws? Well he has Ed by the nads forcing him to run against it hard which won't play well with the self interested English. On the other hand imagine swapping the unhappy pairing with the Cleggites for a SNP-Con pact??? Only a miserable Milliband being ridden over the hedges by yerwoman Sturgeon would be more amusing.
 

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Milliband is finished and will be replaced as soon as themGE is over, unless there is a miracle and they actually poll well.

IMHO SNP will do well but not as well as this poll shows. They are benefitting a bit from the referendum result but that won't last long and normal service will be resumed soon.

In the meantime I will enjoy Labour's pain, they deserve it for their past arrogance in Scotland.
 

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Is someone explaining all this to little Ed?

I've got to admit, I will also very much enjoy watching Labour getting wiped out. Awful, awful people.
 
Milliband is finished and will be replaced as soon as themGE is over, unless there is a miracle and they actually poll well.

IMHO SNP will do well but not as well as this poll shows. They are benefitting a bit from the referendum result but that won't last long and normal service will be resumed soon.

In the meantime I will enjoy Labour's pain, they deserve it for their past arrogance in Scotland.


I'll be betting there are ore than a few in Labour who wosh they drew the long knives a year back. It must be awful knowing that the guy you have leading you offers zero hope of power bar some wierd voting ratios not allowing them in.
 
My only surprise was the size of the blue bit.
 

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My only surprise was the size of the blue bit.

I'm surprised the Tories have gone down in the poll. Would've expected about the same as before. Conservative voters drifting to the Nats as well now?


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My only surprise was the size of the blue bit.
From memory the Tories polled almost as many as SNP in the last GE - they're just spread rather thinly across the country.

As others suggest SNP is benefiting from Labour's tendency to treat its electorate as a given: there was a similar protest effect with the BNP down south a few years back.
 
If Jim Murphy gets the Scottish Labour leadership I think they will bounce back as although I'm no labour voter he came across as a real grafter (for a politician) in the ref and seemed to be quite popular. Ruth Davidson from the conservatives also impressed and although tory results will never be high in Scotland her track record from the ref could win a few votes.
 
If Jim Murphy gets the Scottish Labour leadership I think they will bounce back as although I'm no labour voter he came across as a real grafter (for a politician) in the ref and seemed to be quite popular. Ruth Davidson from the conservatives also impressed and although tory results will never be high in Scotland her track record from the ref could win a few votes.

He does come across well and seems to have a brain. Think he would be the best pick from labour up there.

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I think we are seeing the gradual demise of the traditional three party system. Few voters seem to have much faith in either the policies or the integrity of Labour, the Tories or the Limp Dems, so they are voting for alternatives as a form of protest. There was a bit of reluctance to do this in the GE, but if the vote for the three main parties continues to fragment, voters will see it as less of a risk and will be more inclined to vote for the minor parties.

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If Jim Murphy gets the Scottish Labour leadership I think they will bounce back as although I'm no labour voter he came across as a real grafter (for a politician) in the ref and seemed to be quite popular. Ruth Davidson from the conservatives also impressed and although tory results will never be high in Scotland her track record from the ref could win a few votes.

As you say, Murphy would appear to be making the right noises and I would suspect that his personal drive and hard work will make many wavering voters reconsider Labour at the expense of the SNP.

By default, this may be advantageous to the Conservatives-though 2 Scottish seats (potentially) is not earth-shattering.
 

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He does come across well and seems to have a brain. Think he would be the best pick from labour up there.

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Which probably means he is at a disadvantage in the Scottish leadership election. The vote in Scotland is not one member one vote but the old fashioned smokey room politics. Some apparatchiks may see him as too clever and not easily managed.
 
If Jim Murphy gets the Scottish Labour leadership I think they will bounce back as although I'm no labour voter he came across as a real grafter (for a politician) in the ref and seemed to be quite popular. Ruth Davidson from the conservatives also impressed and although tory results will never be high in Scotland her track record from the ref could win a few votes.

He is one of the few Labour MP's I will listen too when I see him interviewed on TV/Radio.

Impressed with the way he was down there within a few minutes with his sleeves rolled up sifting through the rubble when that chopper piled into the Glasgow pub.

Far too many MP's in this day and age cannot even be bothered to live in the constituencies they represent. This should be a requirement of the job not an optional choice. Only exception should be the PM.
 

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Which probably means he is at a disadvantage in the Scottish leadership election. The vote in Scotland is not one member one vote but the old fashioned smokey room politics. Some apparatchiks may see him as too clever and not easily managed.

I don't think any of the potential candidates will be seen as an "easy touch", but it least it is a contest and not some "imperious march to the throne" as Sturgeon is enjoying. The three candidates reflect the right, centre and left of the party, interesting to see who goes in for deputy leader!
 

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I hope it is not Jackie 'I now talk pan-loafy' Baillie.
 

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This all comes in the wake of the SNP running a very crafty campaign for secession that poached a lot from Labor ideologically, bigging up the NHS etc. Mobilized a lot of dissatisfied younger voters.

Interesting contrast to UKIP's army of angry South East crumblies. A far larger body of men but spread too thin and only able to gather a fraction of the seats the SNP could. However this is a lesson in what a well disciplined smaller party with niche interests can achieve.
 

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I am not long back from Sunny Oban and I have to say, it was a rather "Orwellian" or "North Korean" experience.

Every third lamppost had a "Vote SNP" placard tied to it. Many shops had similar. In the main street there were photos of the local SNP MP with messages that suggested that voting SNP was right and good.

I half expected yellow vans to trundle down the street blasting out Flower of Scotland and political speeches.

As a "White settler" it was rather unsettling and intimidating.

Still, Oban is a shit hole with plenty of druggies hassling folk in the street, run down buildings, charity shops left right and centre but with a rather good "War and Peace" museum.
 

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