SNLR TA Regs para 5.191A

Discussion in 'Military Discipline' started by ex4para, Aug 24, 2012.

Welcome to the Army Rumour Service, ARRSE

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial military website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. Allright lads

    A mate of mine in 4 PARA was discharged SNLR due to lack of attendance at his unit (not desertion just not attending weekends etc!!) - his discharge states TA Regs para 5.191A

    Anyone got a copy or access to the TA Regs to see what that paragraph is as he is considering re-applying to the regs but doesn't want to look a tit if they say **** off

    Cheers
     
  2. I would suggest the best advice would be for "your mate" to ask at the careers office and get it straight from the horses mouth.

    Good luck
     
  3. NOT from an up-to-date version but until someone comes up with it, hope this is of some help. Note the cross-reference to QR(Army) para 9.414:

    5.191.
    a. Cause of Discharge - Services being No Longer Required.
    b. Applies to soldiers who cannot be discharged under any other paragraph and soldiers who enlist for the express
    purpose of obtaining a commission and who are found to be unsuitable while serving as an officer cadet. For
    soldiers discharged due to reductions in establishment see para 5.206 and 5.207.
    c. This paragraph is also to be used for the administrative discharge of soldiers whose circumstances are covered by
    the provisions of QR(Army) para 9.414. All applications for discharge under this sub paragraph are to be made
    on AF B130A(TA), and the case submitted through the chain of command as laid down in
    QR(Army) para 9.414. (See also Annex A/5.)
    d. The competent military authority to authorize discharge under para 5.191b is:
    (1) For independent units - Div/Dist or Regional Brigade Commander.
    (2) For specialist units - Commander TA/CVHQ.
    (3) For discharges under para 5.191c - DM(A).
    If the TA/CVHQ Commander is below the rank of lieutenant colonel discharge is to be authorized by an
    officer not below the rank of colonel of the corps concerned.
     
  4. Nice one Hackle - appreciate it - it was a few years back so he might be ok

    Cheers for the quick response mate
     
  5. From ArmyNet:

    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]5.191.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]a. Cause of Discharge - Services being No Longer Required.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]b. Applies to:
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](1) Soldiers who cannot be discharged under any other paragraph, or
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](2) Soldiers who enlist for the purpose of obtaining a commission and are found unsuitable while serving as an officer cadet, or
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](3) Soldiers who are to be administratively discharged and whose circumstances are covered by the provisions of QR (Army) para 9.414. Applications for such discharges are to be made on AF B130 (TA) and the case submitted through the chain of command as laid down in QR (Army) para 9.414. The competent military authority to authorise discharge is DM(A).
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]c. The competent military authority to authorise discharges under para 5.191b(1) and 5.191b(2) is:
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](1) For Regional units - Div/Dist or Regional Bde Commander.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](2) For National units - Commander TA/CVHQ. If the commander is below the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, discharge is to be authorised by an officer of the Corps concerned who is not below the rank of Colonel.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]d. The competent military authority to authorize discharge under para 5.191b is:
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](1) For regional units - Div/Dist or Regional Brigade Commander.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](2) For national units - Commander TA/CVHQ.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD](3) For discharges under para 5.191c - DM(A).
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]If the TA/CVHQ Commander is below the rank of lieutenant colonel discharge is to be authorized by an officer not below the rank of colonel of the corps concerned.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]