'Smart' Motorways, an accident waiting to happen?

[Endoscope]

And this is how the Germans do it:


MsG

On the right hand side of the road? Exactly the same in Britain

 

[BossHogg]

And this is how the Germans do it:


MsG

Create a corridor like us, the difference being it's an offence to impede an emergency vehicle in Germany, it isn't in the UK.

 

[BossHogg]

Dvsa is dangerously close to their ego’s and ambition.

That they may be, but they have the powers to seriously ruin your day if you're in a wagon.

 

[Cold_Collation]

Create a corridor like us, the difference being it's an offence to impede an emergency vehicle in Germany, it isn't in the UK.

Then make it so.

AND START PROSECUTING LANE-HOGS!

 

[Endoscope]

Create a corridor like us, the difference being it's an offence to impede an emergency vehicle in Germany, it isn't in the UK.

True its only courtesy to get out of our way. And God forbid you "force" them into something illegal..... so please don't jump the lights for us guys!

 

[stacker1]

Create a corridor like us, the difference being it's an offence to impede an emergency vehicle in Germany, it isn't in the UK.

Does this apply?

Emergency Workers (Obstruction) Act 2006 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cold_Collation]

True its only courtesy to get out of our way. And God forbid you "force" them into something illegal..... so please don't jump the lights for us guys!

Was there not a prosecution a few year ago of someone in London who cleared out of the way into a box junction? The judge ruled he'd committed an offence regardless.

Let's have some common sense, as well.

 

[BossHogg]

Does this apply?

Emergency Workers (Obstruction) Act 2006 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not in the Road Traffic Act or Traffic Management Act.

 

[Endoscope]

Was there not a prosecution a few year ago of someone in London who cleared out of the way into a box junction? The judge ruled he'd committed an offence regardless.

Let's have some common sense, as well.

Agreed on the common sense needed, don't recall this particular case

 

[Cold_Collation]

Agreed on the common sense needed, don't recall this particular case

London, somewhere.

Got much coverage, and comment from one pundit that he would never give way to a blue light again if that were the outcome.

Something (rightly) about the judge being a clown, an' all.

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

The hard shoulder soon gets clogged by self important tossers who think they are more important than the rest of the public sat in the queue. Here's how we do it.

If it wasn't broken why fix it?

 

[stacker1]

London, somewhere.

Got much coverage, and comment from one pundit that he would never give way to a blue light again if that were the outcome.

Something (rightly) about the judge being a clown, an' all.

Google appears to disagree

 

[Green_Homer]

London, somewhere.

Got much coverage, and comment from one pundit that he would never give way to a blue light again if that were the outcome.

Something (rightly) about the judge being a clown, an' all.

Absolute offence if I recall rightly... So regardless of intent the offence will still be complete.*

I'm not response trained but I'm sure someone who is will be able to confirm that part of the training includes turning off the siren and waiting behind traffic if you cannot find a path through without forcing them across the line at red lights.

*Slight amendment - a police officer or suitably accredited person (i.e. pcso) can direct you through a red light but this would be more for traffic management

 

[putteesinmyhands]

Something (rightly) about the judge being a clown, an' all.

To be fair, the judge would be the last in the line and bound by the law. The police and CPS, however...

 

[Endoscope]

Absolute offence if I recall rightly... So regardless of intent the offence will still be complete.*

I'm not response trained but I'm sure someone who is will be able to confirm that part of the training includes turning off the siren and waiting behind traffic if you cannot find a path through without forcing them across the line at red lights.

*Slight amendment - a police officer or suitably accredited person (i.e. pcso) can direct you through a red light but this would be more for traffic management

Yep

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

Absolute offence if I recall rightly... So regardless of intent the offence will still be complete.*

I'm not response trained but I'm sure someone who is will be able to confirm that part of the training includes turning off the siren and waiting behind traffic if you cannot find a path through without forcing them across the line at red lights.

*Slight amendment - a police officer or suitably accredited person (i.e. pcso) can direct you through a red light but this would be more for traffic management

The Law is an ass. Don't forget that.

 

[BossHogg]

If it wasn't broken why fix it?

Beyond my pay grade I'm afraid.

 

[slick]

Some more upcoming legislation using iffy technology, speed limiters on new vehicles using cameras or gps. Chap goes into it on this video....

 

[Blogg]

"Well Minister, early days yet but not going quite as well as we had hoped....."

 

[strima]

Some more upcoming legislation using iffy technology, speed limiters on new vehicles using cameras or gps. Chap goes into it on this video....

Mr Fillingham is renowned for his conspiracy theories and talking bollocks, but mainly for his droning on sending me to sleep...