SLRs in Iraq

#1
On this video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=178_1178026734&p=1

at 1m 01secs, is that an SLR in the hands of an Iraqi (FF)? If so, and given that its being fired single shot and not auto, and given that americans are within the proximity, could it be an indication that it is one of our old ones?
 
#2
Belgian FN? Millions made a disseminated, probably only the AK is more popular.

However it wouldn't surprise me if it was a British SLR, i've seen worse - A British 94mm LAW was handed in by the naughty people during the weapons collection Op in Macedonia in 2001.
 
#3
dingerr said:
Belgian FN? Millions made a disseminated, probably only the AK is more popular.

However it wouldn't surprise me if it was a British SLR, i've seen worse - A British 94mm LAW was handed in by the naughty people during the weapons collection Op in Macedonia in 2001.
I remember the LAW getting found, we traced it back to a PWRR battalion I believe also, we confiscated an FN on Telic 1, then on Telic 4 a well known "Cleric" was captured on film by news crews waving an FN about. Dont forget that it wasnt just the Brits who used the SLR, Canada, Australia and NZ amongst others all used a similar version to ours.
 
#4
Definately SLR or FAL, Brilliant bit of kit, never mind I'm sure we are all happy with the pressed monkey metal shoite we now have! At least when we had that you knew they weren't getting up again anytime fast! Out!
 
#6
Plenty of FALs/FAL clones produced for civilian markets, which are not capable of automatic fire.

This is mine. It's actually a South African R1 with the 'full auto' part removed before sale, and a new STG-58 upper receiver with sight mounting.

http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL2.JPG
http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL1.JPG

An alternative explanation is that he might actually be a sensible chap (he certainly has good choice in weapons) and follow standard FAL-user doctrine that the full-auto capability only be used in specific circumstances. The thing is a bugger on full auto. (I used it in the Irish Army)

NTM
 
#7
California_Tanker said:
Plenty of FALs/FAL clones produced for civilian markets, which are not capable of automatic fire.

This is mine. It's actually a South African R1 with the 'full auto' part removed before sale, and a new STG-58 upper receiver with sight mounting.

http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL2.JPG

An alternative explanation is that he might actually be a sensible chap (he certainly has good choice in weapons) and follow standard FAL-user doctrine that the full-auto capability only be used in specific circumstances. The thing is a bugger on full auto. (I used it in the Irish Army)

NTM
Nice... :D A real rifle!Not a mecano kit like the current pile of sh1t!
 
#9
California_Tanker said:
Plenty of FALs/FAL clones produced for civilian markets, which are not capable of automatic fire.

This is mine. It's actually a South African R1 with the 'full auto' part removed before sale, and a new STG-58 upper receiver with sight mounting.

http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL2.JPG
http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL1.JPG

An alternative explanation is that he might actually be a sensible chap (he certainly has good choice in weapons) and follow standard FAL-user doctrine that the full-auto capability only be used in specific circumstances. The thing is a bugger on full auto. (I used it in the Irish Army)

NTM
Very Nice C_T
God i miss my SLR.... :cry:
 
#12
I miss my old SLR too, though if I bang on about why, I'll be accused of merging threads with the left-handed rifles thread from Training Wing!
 

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#14
I loved my old SLR. Even though it was heavy - it was one of the wood stocked ones 1960s vintage. A satisfying feel when fired, and you just knew that it was going to stop what it hit.Even arms drill felt good, especially when it was gleaming with linseed oil, and the sword was attached. Sad git, I know.
 
#15
old_fat_and_hairy said:
I loved my old SLR. Even though it was heavy - it was one of the wood stocked ones 1960s vintage. A satisfying feel when fired, and you just knew that it was going to stop what it hit.Even arms drill felt good, especially when it was gleaming with linseed oil, and the sword was attached. Sad git, I know.
I bet you used to love sleeeping with it ???
I loved the wood ones they looked neat . I loved mine I had the all plastic one but alas mine allways remained in the armoury for range days because they allways made me No1 gunner so that meant lugging the GPMG around I loved that f##ker even more
 
#16
#17
It must be a nostalgia thing because all the blokes of my age group used to moan about the FN/SLR as a load of rubbish and band on about how much better the No 4 Lee Enfield .303 was.
 
#18
California_Tanker said:
Plenty of FALs/FAL clones produced for civilian markets, which are not capable of automatic fire.

This is mine. It's actually a South African R1 with the 'full auto' part removed before sale, and a new STG-58 upper receiver with sight mounting.

http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL2.JPG
http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/army/Ireland/FAL1.JPG

An alternative explanation is that he might actually be a sensible chap (he certainly has good choice in weapons) and follow standard FAL-user doctrine that the full-auto capability only be used in specific circumstances. The thing is a bugger on full auto. (I used it in the Irish Army)

NTM
You will know the half-matchstick trick to reconvert to full-auto, CT? (A court-martial offence in my day.)

The SLR was a splendid rifle, a real soldier's long-arm, which followed other splendid rifles - the l-o-n-g series of .303 Lee Enfields, which won us an Empire, two large and umpteen small wars. Rather hard acts to follow . . . . .

For recent deployments, with a lot of aid-of-civil-power/urban work, the 5.56NATO is probably preferable, due to less penetrative characteristics of ball ammo. Too many 7.62NATO ball bullets inadvertently penetrated successive courses of brick and breeze-block, often with tricky consequences for which T. Atkins inevitably got the blame.

Pity we don'e currently have a decent rifle to fire the 5.56NATO.

Why on earth didn't HMG simply order a carrier-load of M-16s? Or were/are there too many fragile egos at MoD and Defense Procurement. I suspect the latter . . . . .
 
#19
craftsmanx said:
It must be a nostalgia thing because all the blokes of my age group used to moan about the FN/SLR as a load of rubbish and band on about how much better the No 4 Lee Enfield .303 was.
The No 4 LE was a very fine culmination of the .303 LE succession of rifles, but it was at its best in the hands of much better-that-average shots.

The joy of the SLR was the typical soldier's ability to squeeze off two well-aimed shots in v. quick succession. The No 4 (and Enfield p14) rebarrelled for 7.62NATO, remained as sniper-issue rifles for many years. Enforcer etc.

Enforcers etc had a fine Bisley reputation, too.
 
#20
Twist_To_Open said:
SLR real mans gun fond thoughts of that bad boy
Your shoulder knew when you had been shooting with the SLR, cracking weapon and to help the lads pass their APWT who werent as good a shot you had the old trusted 5.62 BIC pen. :oops:
 

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