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Slight issue with age.

#1
Right the title says it all really. I'm 26 and although that wouldn't be a problem if I was going to RMAS in September at the latest I've been warned that I might have some problems due to my age. Now it's not a major issue as I'm hopefully joining ETS (and the age limit is higher) but I was curious would any other corps or regiment take me?
 
#3
Waiting for my AOSB briefing. Thus far it's been really quick as I don't think ETS get many recruits who already have a PGCE. It could also be that I'm being rushed through due to my age but don't quote me on that.
 
#5
Right the title says it all really. I'm 26 and although that wouldn't be a problem if I was going to RMAS in September at the latest I've been warned that I might have some problems due to my age. Now it's not a major issue as I'm hopefully joining ETS (and the age limit is higher) but I was curious would any other corps or regiment take me?
You are in so much trouble.

The IRON will know the answer, but it's Friday night, and he's probably sat at home watching telly. You, on the other hand, should be out shagging Irish nurses.
 
#6
Waiting for my AOSB briefing. Thus far it's been really quick as I don't think ETS get many recruits who already have a PGCE. It could also be that I'm being rushed through due to my age but don't quote me on that.
If you pass Main Board before 1st May (unlikely I think) you are fine.

If you don't then once you have completed AOSB Briefing your report will be forwarded to the AGC, who will decide whether they want to proceed and consider "confirming" you.

If not, you're fucked. So best give your all for AOSB. Also, I am not sure, but I think the Army might make you re-take the PGCE in-service.

Also - as for other Regs taking you, you are ONLY eligible for Intel, RAMC MSO, or AGC at 26. Intel and RAMC are, on the whole, not interested in taking 26 year olds, unless you are truly exceptional. AGC a little more lax.
 
#9
If you pass Main Board before 1st May (unlikely I think) you are fine.

If you don't then once you have completed AOSB Briefing your report will be forwarded to the AGC, who will decide whether they want to proceed and consider "confirming" you.

If not, you're fucked. So best give your all for AOSB. Also, I am not sure, but I think the Army might make you re-take the PGCE in-service.

Also - as for other Regs taking you, you are ONLY eligible for Intel, RAMC MSO, or AGC at 26. Intel and RAMC are, on the whole, not interested in taking 26 year olds, unless you are truly exceptional. AGC a little more lax.
So put simply if AGC say no I'm fucked?
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
So put simply if AGC say no I'm fucked?
Stop trying to second guess, put yourself about, look useful and push as hard as you can without becoming unpleasant - you'll be surprised what the Army will do if it wants you, which is why there are so many process arguments on Arrse about what can and cannot be done.
 
#14
So put simply if AGC say no I'm fucked?
ETS is within AGC and I think you are assessed per-branch so if for whatever reason ETS rejected you, you could asked to be shopped around the other options with AGC - SPS, RMP etc.

RAMC MSO is a possibility but highly unlikely. I have no idea why Intel have kept the 29 years upper age limit because they're never short of excellent candidates at RSB. Perhaps they are keeping the window open for those with PhDs and highly specialised relevant skills.

If you are already booked in for AOSB Briefing then surely your ACA will have told you all of this? Or did you not ask? Not that I resent answering mind, but it's just a little unusual to be gearing up for AOSB Briefing and to not already have in mind what your options are!
 
#15
ETS is within AGC and I think you are assessed per-branch so if for whatever reason ETS rejected you, you could asked to be shopped around the other options with AGC - SPS, RMP etc.

RAMC MSO is a possibility but highly unlikely. I have no idea why Intel have kept the 29 years upper age limit because they're never short of excellent candidates at RSB. Perhaps they are keeping the window open for those with PhDs and highly specialised relevant skills.

If you are already booked in for AOSB Briefing then surely your ACA will have told you all of this? Or did you not ask? Not that I resent answering mind, but it's just a little unusual to be gearing up for AOSB Briefing and to not already have in mind what your options are!
I had a idea I was just being doubly sure. I'm AGC focused mostly cause that's where I want to go (and if I don't get ETS on this pass I may be able to switch later). I thought about Int and I may make a visit when the time comes but we shall see. The only option I wasn't aware of was RAMC but as previously stated I'll be lucky so that's probably why it wasn't mentioned.

Thanks for the help
TFB
 
#16
I had a idea I was just being doubly sure. I'm AGC focused mostly cause that's where I want to go (and if I don't get ETS on this pass I may be able to switch later). I thought about Int and I may make a visit when the time comes but we shall see. The only option I wasn't aware of was RAMC but as previously stated I'll be lucky so that's probably why it wasn't mentioned.

Thanks for the help
TFB
Once you get your foot in the door so to speak there is scope for transferring later. RAMC I know accept transfers but I don't know what resctrictions are put on this. Int will take Officer transfer candidates up to the age of 34. AAC up to 32 I think and there is scope for courses such as P-Coy and AACC to 'spice up' the ETS! Transfers usually require a certain level of in-service, post-training time. At least 2 years I think. This might be a problem with ETS especially if you are asked to re-take your PGCE. As one Colonel put it to me, "Nobody knows what on earth Int do usually so a lot of people learn in-service and then suddenly are interested in transferring".

Best of luck to you.
 
#17
Pyianno is spot on just like Booti says if your going Officer entry why would you rather ask faceless people on an internet sight rather than your ACA1...your just lucky sensible people have replied rather than some of the muppets on here.....I did include Sluggy in the sensible lot....god help me.


However I would be very wary on the transferring once in.....just like the Soldiers since the job offer letter was introduced for new entrants on 6th April 2010 you may find with budgets getting tighter and government audits getting tighter that ALL transfers will be a thing of the past in years to come.
 
#18
Pyianno is spot on just like Booti says if your going Officer entry why would you rather ask faceless people on an internet sight rather than your ACA1...your just lucky sensible people have replied rather than some of the muppets on here.....I did include Sluggy in the sensible lot....god help me.


However I would be very wary on the transferring once in.....just like the Soldiers since the job offer letter was introduced for new entrants on 6th April 2010 you may find with budgets getting tighter and government audits getting tighter that ALL transfers will be a thing of the past in years to come.
I was mostly just confirming what I was already aware of for the most part. That and only making one visit when the time comes could be seen as putting all my eggs in one basket. Thankfully I was able to speak to an ETS officer this morning (friend of a friend) and he said that although I'm older than a usual entrant I'm not unusual for ETS. He did confirm what I suspected that I'll have to redo my PGCE and that because I already have some teaching experience I shouldn't really have any problems getting in. He did suggest that post trade training I should look into doing as many courses as I'm able because it will help in the long run to show I'm commited and it'll help my promotion prospects. He did also point out that because I'm older than is usual I'll probably hit a glass ceiling of about Major unless I work hard but not to worry too much about it.

Anyway I only really asked here for confirmation and knowing that when Arrse gives a serious answer it has a wide and useful knowledge base, I thought (or hoped) that you'd all be 100% honest and help me find out all the options. Ok ego stroked enough for today? Thanks for all the help guys I owe you a drink!
 

cpunk

LE
Moderator
#19
The only places you can go, unless you pass AOSB MB before 1st May, are The AGC and RAMC MSO. The Int Corps have withdrawn from the scheme. Intel make microprocessors, they may recruit over 26s.
 
#20
However I would be very wary on the transferring once in.....just like the Soldiers since the job offer letter was introduced for new entrants on 6th April 2010 you may find with budgets getting tighter and government audits getting tighter that ALL transfers will be a thing of the past in years to come.
Seems highly likely. Only possible exception is Int where I think transferees are quite common. The other thing to bear in mind is transfers often usually only considered where you can bring skills sought after by the branch you are intending to transfer to. Easier said than done!
 

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