I am always wary of firms that say they are seriously recruiting and ask for the candidates to put up money up front that will be repaid on acceptance by the airline. This mob expect you to front the money for your security clearance with the application form and travel for the fitness test and psychometric analysis at your own expense.
Candidates must be eligible for, and maintain a security clearance based upon an adjudicated special background investigation. On completing the preliminary survey, candidates must then attend for compulsory medical examination, full fitness test and psychometric analysis. This will be at the candidates own expense, however reimbursement from the airline maybe negotiated upon successful placement.
Translation: You pay us to run some tests on you then we place you on a waiting list. You might see that money back, then again you might not.
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Key words here are Recruitment and Agency. They'll train you once you stump up the cash, and then place you with a carrier, however, how many other recruitment agencies exist in the sky marshals industry vying for the airlines business? Training and then placement are two worlds apart. Reminds me of my resettlement course which also stated they could do placements within the IT industry. I'm still waiting 5 years to be placed into a job by them!
Recall, once you have your 2nd interview can you please post on here the total cost of your training, which I assume you will ask, or already have asked on the 1st interview. And I don't mean the cost for vetting, medical, etc. I mean ask them what is the total overall cost for training and placement. If that's free, then your onto a winner. If they want cash (and training like this doesn't come cheap), then I wouldn't get your hopes up for job at the end of it!
Are you surprised by the response you got? Your only post on ARRSE is in support of a company charging Â£20 for for a "security check" - do you know how much UK Government vetting costs? If you re-read the thread you'll see why the jury's out on which side of the table you'll be sitting if there actually are any interviews on Tuesday.
I'm only interested in this topic because I fly a lot, and I'm uncomfortable at the prospect of sharing a flight with a potentially armed security officer, unless he/she is a serving or former policeman, or one of the very few individuals in the services who have genuinely done this sort of thing before. If you are genuine, then don't be surprised if you are invited to pay the cost of a training course because, as Gunny Highway points out, that's what recruitment agencies do. As for jobs thereafter, I would guess you'll find yourself standing by the metal detector at Heathrow, sticking a wand between people's legs every now and then, for the minimum wage. You'd get paid the same at Macdonalds, and they don't make you pay for training or a security check
I would be very unsure about this company. I work for Security with BAA who own and run airports including heathrow and gatwick and we have not had any information regarding skymarshals coming through. There would be serious talks in reagard to allowing anyone other than police through security with firearms. The police would also be jumpy about having another 'agency' with firearms around the airport.
Even though the job in security is slightly different to what Donny says and the pay considerably more , I wouldnt hold your breath for a job as there has been no criteria set out for this that i have seen.
Dz's experience is similar to many capable ex-military I know. The moral of the story is that there are no short-cuts; no "zero-to-hero" and there is definitely no such thing as a free lunch.
Do you want to do CP? Well do it in the military or CIVPOL for real, get some experience and credibility and then tout your CV off. Don't go on an expensive course advertised in the back of Guns'n'Ammo. Like I said, a lot of the time (but not always) it's canny operators (many of whom have done it for real) looking at walts and seeing piggy banks. Ditto surveillance, corporate investigation, risk assessment, analysis and so on.
Interestingly, my experience of the IT security industry is that it is one of those fields where the really sexy stuff is happening outside of law enforcement and where entry-level opportunities are sound for the right candidates. Again, not my cup of tea personally.
The really, really good companies (and if you need to know who they are then you'll know who they are) don't need to play this game. I was tentatively offered a UK-based job about eighteen months ago with a very good private security outfit, but frankly the pretty good wedge didn't touch the sh*t and giggles or long-term pension provision of my current job so I turned it down. Iraq, of course, has changed everything, but the Wild West really isn't my cup of tea as I intend to live to a ripe old age, ta.
Conclusion: Switched-on, genuine and experienced operators who take the time to do some basic networking and ask the right questions will find work in the field of their choice. The others will pay for training for jobs that might never arrive.