Skill at arms

#1
Im going on a weekend field training with the Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry and would like to know firstly; what the SA80A2 skill at arms test entails and also what i need to know to take part in a Sabre troop. thank you

toon
 
#3
mudbloodgreenfieldsbeyond said:
tin foil hat

you mention these alot ...

how many do you own ? i prefer bacofoil mind , the asda brand just doesnt hold up to all that sniping i do
 
#4
Toon~France said:
Im going on a weekend field training with the Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry and would like to know firstly; what the SA80A2 skill at arms test entails and also what i need to know to take part in a Sabre troop. thank you

toon
Test is same as normal weapon handling test, with odd change now as no gas stopage drills and no requirment to apply safty catch when dealing with other stopages.

Excelent weapon system far better than the A1, even the mags feel better quality instead of that cheap tin they were made of.
 
#7
dont forget left handed cocking unlike on the Cadet GP L98A1, god that thing is like a shotgun!!!
 
#8
is it the same test as the GP? im basicaly worried about the gas parts as ive never used anything other than the GP before, apart from that is the holding open device in the same place and are the stoppage drills the same?
 
#9
Toon~France said:
is it the same test as the GP? im basicaly worried about the gas parts as ive never used anything other than the GP before, apart from that is the holding open device in the same place and are the stoppage drills the same?
Not the same as the GP test, instead of Cock Hook and Look you simply look at the cocking handles position and listen to what they tell you. as for parts such as bolt release etc all in the same place, it is exactly the same to strip (bar the gas parts) but i am quite sure someone will show you how if not they are a bonk unit full of jack tw@s. have you never covered an LSW lesson at your det or are you not at three star level yet?
 
#10
no i am 3* level i just havn't started learning the LSW drills yet. I'm going on the weekend 1 & 2nd of July and was just worried becasue the 2ic of the unit im going with said i have to pass the SAA test before he'd let me in the field. Also if you wouldnt mind, what do i need to know to take part in a sabre troop?
 
#11
Toon~France said:
no i am 3* level i just havn't started learning the LSW drills yet. I'm going on the weekend 1 & 2nd of July and was just worried becasue the 2ic of the unit im going with said i have to pass the SAA test before he'd let me in the field. Also if you wouldnt mind, what do i need to know to take part in a sabre troop?
i couldnt tell you about a sabre troop as i am a falling plate but i am guessing its just armoured recce?. in all fairness the troop 2ic should give you a chance to run through the drills before binning you, if not as mentioned he is a chopper. it might be an idea to speak to your det commander for future reference, to get a couple of members of your local ta unit to come to your det and teach lsw as they can use an SA80 to do the lessons, i have personally viseted ACF dets and taught it many times. :D
 
#12
cheers for your advice where would you suggest i ask about a sabre troop?
lol the 2 IC is my cousin thats how im on the EX lol. and i don't want to involve my ACF detachment because they will start blabbing on about risk assesment etc...
 
#13
At the local ta centre? that is if it is yoemanry, if not try the army website?
 
#14
Toon France are you a cadet an AI ??

On a serious note have you ever been taught how to use the A2 if not then surely you should not be anywhere near one ??

I think it mentions this in the seven safe handling rules and the red book.

Sorry to sound all H+S but it concerns me.
 
#16
Toon~France said:
cheers for your advice where would you suggest i ask about a sabre troop?
lol the 2 IC is my cousin thats how im on the EX lol. and i don't want to involve my ACF detachment because they will start blabbing on about risk assesment etc...
So they bl00dy well should.

And there is a reason for it. Cadets are not soldiers and should not be expected to do what soldiers do there is the legality issue around the use of automatic weapons to consider and the safety aspect of a cadet in a military vehicle.

If you were in my det and did this behind my back I would strongly consider your place and certainly any rank you hold.

You are hardly being honest to your det staff about this nor are you showing IMHO any concern for ACF rules nor does it sound to me like your cousin is following procedure.

Thanks for the flippancy in your reply last time and have a lovely time.
 
#17
Toon~France said:
cheers for your advice where would you suggest i ask about a sabre troop?
lol the 2 IC is my cousin thats how im on the EX lol. and i don't want to involve my ACF detachment because they will start blabbing on about risk assesment etc...
you edited this, as mentioned above it is not good practice on both your parts to be doing this without ACF clerence and its not only h & s to worry about there is aspects of the childrens act etc to also consider, your cousin could seriously be jepordising his career if this was to come to light, sorry mate but uncool
 
#18
well... he sent this letter to my det commander....

Dear Miss

RE: Cadet James Cowen

Further to our telephone conversation on 20 April I write to confirm that we would very much like to take James on an exercise with us. The regiment has a field training exercise booked for the weekend of 1 and 2 July.

I will expect him to take a weapons handling test on the SA80A2 and be in a position to participate in a sabre troop.
If you could set the ball rolling for clearance I would be very grateful.

Yours sincerely
 
#19
you should in theory have an ACF instructor with you too as anytime any of the senior cadets join us they bring an instructor, so this miss s, is she good looking? lol!
 
#20
Toon Framce I strongly reccomend that you edit your last and remove the name of the serving officer. I also suggest that you remove the location details. Hardly the best security is it.
 
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