Single accommodation locker entitlement

#1
Does anyone know if single soldiers living in barracks are entitled to lockers/wardrobes in their living accommodation? If so are they entitled to one locker for their military kit only or one for civilian kit as well. Does any know where this information would be? Thanks for any help.

Some of the guys in my unit are being moved to rooms with no lockers or only one locker and no draws/cupboards/shelving or anything else. They are being moved out of rooms with at least 2 full lockers pull overhead cupboards and shelving.
May seem trivial to some but people need someone to hang their military kit at least, never mind their civiy kit. Also is it to much to expect somewhere to put your personal belongings securely and neatly without having to stack them on the floor or get your own furniture?
 
#3
JSP375 gives the space and contents entitlement, but beware it can be provided in a number of different ways, not always next to your bed!! :?

It's also the basis of the new build SLA's etc. :D
 
#4
Trivial? I can see why there are retention problems if people get treated like that. Haven't you got any WOs in your unit?
 
#5
What he said. The Seniors should be taking a bit more interest in looking after the guys.
 
#6
From JSP 315 SCALE 3 JUNIOR SERVICEMEN AND JUNIOR SERVICEWOMEN'S SINGLE LIVING ACCOMMODATION (JRSLA), Annex A1:

(Available via ArmyNet - Career/Welfare/Publications)

1. Double Wardrobe 1000 x 600 x 1800mm.
Doors fitted with 270° heavy duty semiconcealed hinges, padlock fastening, & wooden inset handles, full width hanging rail with full width fitted internal four drawer unit.

2. Double Top Box 1000 x 600 x 500mm.
Doors fitted with 270° heavy uty semiconcealed hinges, padlock
fastening, & wooden inset handles for fitting over Item 1.

3. Single Wardrobe 600 x 600 x 1800mm.
Door fitted with 270° heavy duty semiconcealed hinges, padlock
fastening, & wooden inset handle, full width hanging rail, includes for tie rail fitted to robe door, and for internal robe door mirror,1050mm x 250mm x 4mm.

4. Single Top Box 600 x 600 x 500mm. Door fitted with 270° heavy duty semiconcealed hinges, padlock fastening & wooden inset handle, for fitting over Item 3.

5. Two door cupboard 1000 x 600 x 710mm.
Fitted with 270° heavy duty semiconcealed hinges, padlock fastening, & wooden inset handles (includes for fixed shelf.)

6. Wall Bookshelf Unit.
Three shelves & end panels.

7. Bedside Unit.
Open shelf with cupboard below, door fitted with 270° heavy duty semiconcealed hinges & wooden inset handle.

8. Sundeala Pinboard.
1200 x 800mm Hessian Covered.

9. Infill panel pieces as required.
This is the aimed-for standard. There may well be other reasons why this scale isn't provided.

edited to add, just to clarify:

JSP 315 Scale 1 Para 11 says, "The scales are not an automatic entitlement...."
Para 13 says, "Nevertheless, the scales, or parts of them, should be applied where appropriate."
 
#7
Crap lockers = petty thieving = bad morale = crap unit...sort it!
 
#8
This is basics and you need to push it up your Chain of Command with responsible reasons as you put above so its seen as a serious request and not a whinge. Use the security reasons as your main reasons.
 
#9
also the "good order and military discipline" argument. Tidy accommodation is efficient and clean accommodation...leads to tidy and effcient soldiers.
 
#10
What about washers/dryers?

Some lads in 11 reg are having to hand wash their mil and civi kit and dry it in the drying room (could try sneaking into other blocks to wash their clothes!)

Apparently you can tell the 11 reg guys on their camp because they're walking around in jeans like cardboard...

There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
 
#11
depot_donkey said:
What about washers/dryers?

Some lads in 11 reg are having to hand wash their mil and civi kit and dry it in the drying room (could try sneaking into other blocks to wash their clothes!)

Apparently you can tell the 11 reg guys on their camp because they're walking around in jeans like cardboard...

There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
Not heard of a Launderette at 11 reg then?
 
#13
depot_donkey said:
There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
Whats so differant about UK Spec to German Spec then? apart from the plug that is which could be changed? Most electrical goods will work in the 220/240 volt range.
 
#14
depot_donkey said:
What about washers/dryers?

Some lads in 11 reg are having to hand wash their mil and civi kit and dry it in the drying room (could try sneaking into other blocks to wash their clothes!)

Apparently you can tell the 11 reg guys on their camp because they're walking around in jeans like cardboard...

There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
Dalton barracks, Abingdon has had washing machines for all the block for well over a year stored in the QMs (with the exception of the 2 slam blocks) everyone has to make do with the 5 washing machines in the laundrette. (which used to close at 7pm every night)
 
#15
At Bruggen,One of the lads bought a second hand washing machine of a married chap who got a new one,welded a lock onto it & sold keys to the lock for 20Dm.He made a small fortune.
 
#16
Mike_2817 said:
depot_donkey said:
There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
Whats so differant about UK Spec to German Spec then? apart from the plug that is which could be changed? Most electrical goods will work in the 220/240 volt range.[/quote]

Exactly. Or use a 3 -2 convertor.

My UK machine worked perfectly well in BFG.
 
#19
Chris_2oo6 said:
im in SLA and ive got more storage space than i cud ever wish for lol

plus my own bathroom

plus we've got a cubby hole with bergen lockers in aswell
You should offer to store all their porn for them until they find a safe place for it.

I find SLA to be depressing and not unlike the nick on days off.
 
#20
heidtheba said:
Mike_2817 said:
depot_donkey said:
There's also talk of 400 washing machines sat in a german warehouse because someone bought 400 UK-spec washing machines, that don't work in Germany - the guy in question should have been binned but probably got an MBE!
Whats so differant about UK Spec to German Spec then? apart from the plug that is which could be changed? Most electrical goods will work in the 220/240 volt range.[/quote]

Exactly. Or use a 3 -2 convertor.

My UK machine worked perfectly well in BFG.
Perhaps they were coin-op?

ISTR that German cookers used to work off 3-phase, so they would have been no use in UK, but UK cookers would just require a hard-point (is that the correct term?) connection. So even if German washing machines were 3-phase, Brit ones should still be a goer in der Vaterland, fitted with an earthed Schuco plug.
 

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