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Silvermans.....Laugh yer 'ead off!

maninblack

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#1
Go and have a look at Silvermans website then look in the collectables section.

They have a got a £50 Hamilton watch on for £299 and an old P Company Helmet at £125.

The real laugh has to be the RWF stable belt buckle at £40 for something that comes free with an £18 belt.
 
#3
They're still in business because of the prodigious numbers of walts and wannabes who will pay ridiculous sums of money for their tat.

I find it astonishing that they are even allowed to sell what amounts to remaindered and sub-standard kit.

And if you don't believe me, get someone wearing some of their 'kit' to stand in front of a TI...
 
#4
They can tell by looking at the "NSN" if they have made the kit themselves.

As far as I can tell there is no mention that it is repro and not original.
 
#5
True, the walt market is growing as well these days, tales of sandpits etc seem to be filling clubs round my way at the moment..

True conversation
Walter a Knobb Jockey "Yeah i got back 4 days ago from the sand pit, slotted 7 of the rag headed ba*stards"

Beechams "Really? I thought you sold me 2 new tires from Quick fit a week ago?"

TWAT!
 
#6
Calypso said:
I find it astonishing that they are even allowed to sell what amounts to remaindered and sub-standard kit.

And if you don't believe me, get someone wearing some of their 'kit' to stand in front of a TI...
If you mean the green webbing, that was a procurement cock-up. The MoD specified a particular anti-IR material and johnny manufacturer decided to save himself some money thinking no-one would notice. :lol:
 
#7
B_B (and anyone else!)

It's not just the 'green webbing' that's at fault - none of Silverman's kit meets the various DEFSTANs relating to near and far IR. Although they claim (rightly) that it is all 'genuine issued kit' (clearly it is), the only reason they can sell it is precisely because it isn't 'the actual kit'. To do so would compromise our own procurement specs. Confused yet? :D

If anyone wants to know more about this issue, apply for the NATO Counter Surveillance Instructor Course run at STANOC in Larkhill. Apart from learning a thing or 2, you get to play with the very latest bits of kit (it was Hollygog in my day!)
 
#11
I have found as a rule of thumb if it is 'New' Kit, it is manufactured for the market as the 'Real Thing' But compare it to an issue item and the differences are there for those who care to look closely.

Had a look at a Para Smock copy in Catterick which was close to the real item, and is purchased by many 16 AB Guys unable to buy the real thing.

To my mind prices are far to high on the repro market items!

Anchor Supplies at Nottingham or Ripley are not bad for genuine surplus, but even they sell copies as well.
 
#13
although silvermans was the only place I could get no2 collardogs and tropical trousers for some bizarre reason.
stores in cyprus could'nt issue me these items tropical shirts no problem but no trousers
 
#14
Adds little, but I remembered it when I read your barcode thing, and I like it...

Had a storeman a few years ago who got wound up by the QM and CQMS about a new barcode system coming in. Complete techno-phobe, thought he'd not cope etc etc. Got to the stage where he believed he had to learn the codes. Used to be seen mumbling to himself 'socks- right then, thick thin thin thin thick thick thin, F~CK IT I'LL NEVER GET THIS RIGHT thin thick thick...........
 
#15
Calypso said:
B_B (and anyone else!)

It's not just the 'green webbing' that's at fault - none of Silverman's kit meets the various DEFSTANs relating to near and far IR. Although they claim (rightly) that it is all 'genuine issued kit' (clearly it is), the only reason they can sell it is precisely because it isn't 'the actual kit'. To do so would compromise our own procurement specs. Confused yet? :D

If anyone wants to know more about this issue, apply for the NATO Counter Surveillance Instructor Course run at STANOC in Larkhill. Apart from learning a thing or 2, you get to play with the very latest bits of kit (it was Hollygog in my day!)
When they trialled the first sets of PLCE DPM in NI they found that they were so badly made that they lit up like white arctic kit and they had to take it back to the drawing board. Don't bother buying replica or kit which claims to be issued as it is a complete rip off

The STANOC course was excellent (now defunct I think?). We were shown some of the footage of a drunken chav stumbling about and a couple invloved in some very vigorous rutting which was shot under brighton pier from the back of a transit van in the wee small hours on a TI camera (amazing detail! :wink: ). All in the interest of research of course. :wink: Camming up a bridge layer in the woods was a different matter though :roll:
 
#17
Managed 23 years and the only kit I bought was a nyrex notebook size, a maglite pen torch and my service/mess dress. Oh and a Victor beret, pre-shaped!!
 
#18
Cuddles said:
Managed 23 years and the only kit I bought was a nyrex notebook size, a maglite pen torch and my service/mess dress. Oh and a Victor beret, pre-shaped!!
Must have sucked trying to draw on the Nyrex with pencils... perhaps you should have bought some pens aswell?
 
#19
Joker said:
Cuddles said:
Managed 23 years and the only kit I bought was a nyrex notebook size, a maglite pen torch and my service/mess dress. Oh and a Victor beret, pre-shaped!!
Must have sucked trying to draw on the Nyrex with pencils... perhaps you should have bought some pens aswell?
Buy stationery my dear chap? What on earth do you think my wife's civilian employer's office supplies account was for? I even got an Omegraph out of them by some bizarre alchemy!! Best equipped CP in the world...
 
#20
Cuddles said:
Joker said:
Cuddles said:
Managed 23 years and the only kit I bought was a nyrex notebook size, a maglite pen torch and my service/mess dress. Oh and a Victor beret, pre-shaped!!
Must have sucked trying to draw on the Nyrex with pencils... perhaps you should have bought some pens aswell?
Buy stationery my dear chap? What on earth do you think my wife's civilian employer's office supplies account was for? I even got an Omegraph out of them by some bizarre alchemy!! Best equipped CP in the world...
A fair and valid point. I'll get my coat. However, I was expecting you to come back by saying you got it through the system. Apparently, you can get everything through the system...

It appears that the clerks in my company have never heard of the system or were aware there was a system. It would seem that the system is a bizarre and scarey thing that should not be troubled lest it smite you. Or so it would appear everytime I have tried to get something through the system.
 

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