Signing off Ban

#2
You cannot be stopped from signing off as this would be a breach of contract providing you give the correct notice. If you have served less than 12 you will have a liability for reserve service. If your CO is trying to convince you that you cannot sign off, then this is a gross breach of his powers and you would have every right to submit a complaint. In the past of course you could have told your CO that you loved him and this would have been enough to have you discharged for being a whoopsy... these days you would probably get promoted..
 
#3
Not from signing off per say but he can put limitations on when the discharge will occur if there is an operation coming up and he needs to firm up an ORBAT. Can find there is a bar the period before and during a op tour.
 
#5
Alf_Garnet_Commando said:
A whole battalion in england has been told there is a signing off ban. Where would one go to redress this?

News of the World? :wink:
 
#6
In my regiment we were told that the CO was not going to let people sign off who he thought would have been a public burden!
Tosser, I never heard of him applying it though, goo job as anyone with anyballs would have taken him straight to court.

As for the sign off ban, that is what we got told. But my friend who was a clerk confirmed that it was just PVR's as the CO cannot stop people from leaving. Also he's not allowed to send people on Op's in their last six months, and that come from the resettlement officer - I know he did stop people from deploying.

Best bet mate, speak to the resettlement officer in your local area.
 
#7
It sounds to me like certain CO's are probably the reason so many want to sign off... Shouldn't the system investigate when signing off reaches certain levels? Indicates a major failure of leadership to me.
 
#8
Warrior_Poet said:
It sounds to me like certain CO's are probably the reason so many want to sign off... Shouldn't the system investigate when signing off reaches certain levels? Indicates a major failure of leadership to me.
Good point. I'm proberbly not the only who has seen the Arrivals\Discharges board taken down from an orderly room by an CO\OC when the discharges section has an extension to it. Do they get investigated, and if they do what happens? I've seen some awful OC's promoted off the back of huge sign off rates.
 
#9
Warrior_Poet said:
It sounds to me like certain CO's are probably the reason so many want to sign off... Shouldn't the system investigate when signing off reaches certain levels? Indicates a major failure of leadership to me.
They do. My unit got investigated during Agricola 1, about 30% sign off rate as I recall. Don't know the result of the investigation, officers dealings not transparent to Cpls! :lol:
 
#10
Speedy said:
I've seen some awful OC's promoted off the back of huge sign off rates.
Missed your post by seconds! Its what they do with junior offrs though isn't it? Its too embarrasing/time consuming to try to knock some common sense/decency into them, so promote them, and let someone else deal with the problem. :?
 
#11
Alf_Garnet_Commando said:
A whole battalion in england has been told there is a signing off ban. Where would one go to redress this?
If thats alf garner the pet op who is down at logs every FU*KER wants you to sign off you toilet...If not sorry mate 8O
 
#12
In answer to the original question a CO cannot enforce a signing off ban. He can, however, place a restriction on PVRs that will not be accepted for a period due to operations. As most soldiers no longer have PVR rights anyway it is probably a waste of time ....!
 
#13
Mutineer said:
In answer to the original question a CO cannot enforce a signing off ban. He can, however, place a restriction on PVRs that will not be accepted for a period due to operations. As most soldiers no longer have PVR rights anyway it is probably a waste of time ....!
your name suggests you wouldnt bother with such shananigans as officially getting out, where are u?? Costa Del Sol sending postcards back to the Bn??!! :wink: :wink:
 
#14
No you can not be restricted in your rights to sign off, so long as you have completed the minimumammount of service your contract dictates, anybody telling you otherwise is talking bolleaux. As for only being on the active reserve under 12 years?, Hmmm tell that to my brother who has just been mobilised at the age of 45 and having only completed 9 years in ooh 1987. Ah well stag on bro hehehehe :p
 
#15
Poacher said:
No you can not be restricted in your rights to sign off, so long as you have completed the minimumammount of service your contract dictates, anybody telling you otherwise is talking bolleaux. As for only being on the active reserve under 12 years?, Hmmm tell that to my brother who has just been mobilised at the age of 45 and having only completed 9 years in ooh 1987. Ah well stag on bro hehehehe :p
Really? 19 years later? That is going some and I am surprised, as he must have been! How did they track him down?

I think that would be a really good wind-up for someone who has left early!!! :lol: :lol:

Funnily enough, I was discussing the testimonial today with one of my junior officers and I insisted that the last line should consist of the words "should LCpl Fcukwit be recalled to the Colours, I recommend that he be employed as far to the rear as possible" or "I strongly recommend that LCpl Fcukwit should not be given the opportunity to darken our doors ever again". Delete and insert as required.

Litotes
 
#16
Mutineer said:
In answer to the original question a CO cannot enforce a signing off ban. He can, however, place a restriction on PVRs that will not be accepted for a period due to operations. !
The Yanks have been running a programme called "Stop-Loss" for a while now. If invoked it means that anyone due to leave in the period prior to or during an Op can be expected to stag on for 90 days of the Op - In extreme I think people can be made to do an extra 6 months - 90 days pre-Op and 90 deployed. !!

On another tack an American mate of mine was within 18 hours of getting on the bus to the airport after a year in Iraq when the whole unit was told they were to stag on for another 3 months. Happy Teddies, Not....

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/terrorism/a/arstoploss.htm
 
#18
ArmySurplusSpecial said:
Mutineer said:
In answer to the original question a CO cannot enforce a signing off ban. He can, however, place a restriction on PVRs that will not be accepted for a period due to operations. As most soldiers no longer have PVR rights anyway it is probably a waste of time ....!
your name suggests you wouldnt bother with such shananigans as officially getting out, where are u?? Costa Del Sol sending postcards back to the Bn??!! :wink: :wink:
Actually I am lounging in the Costa Del Bulford, plotting the downfall of the establishment from a G1 perspective ......
 
#19
The 12 Year thing is length of service liability for reserve service, if you serve 12 or less you can be sent on Operation Certain Death at Bliars discretion. Not sure if there is a time limit on that but looks like there isn't! Rules may have changed now anyway. Once I've handed my kit in, they can stick it up their arrses anyway, the only way I'll be in uniform is one with arrows on after I try to steal some Bullion.
 
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