Should we trust Pakistan (ISI).

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Man-test, May 3, 2011.

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  1. That fiction is now exposed. Bin Laden was not killed in an assault on a Taliban safe haven in the mountain caves within Afghanistan. He was shot inside a large, relatively new home, apparently purpose built for him, in a town filled with retired Pakistani military officers and on the virtual doorstep of the Pakistan Military Academy. This is an area filled with Pakistani security forces and firmly under the control of the government in Islamabad. In my humble opinion Pakistanis share much of the ideology of the Islamic fundamentalists against whom we are fighting and I’m not at all sure their government is on the right side of this conflict.
    Bin Laden is dead. Al Qaeda is not. The war goes on and may yet for many more years. We cannot continue to prosecute this war based on the fantasy that the Pakistanis are wilco. Personally, I don't trust them.
  2. You've got to admire the bloke's front.
  3. I admire NOTHING about the leprous scum and unbridled terrorist the late Osama Laden - nothing whatsoever.
  4. We'd better send them more money.
  5. I'm sure I saw him shopping in Sparkbrook Lidl once.
  6. Untill our leaders really understand the way that other people think we are lost. When they realise that others do not think in the same way or have the same values we will carry on with the present farce. Antway we have helped the Cjinese economy with our aid.
  7. I thought the US had answered that question?
  8. I don't think our government has ever trusted Pakistan. We just play a political game as do the USA.
  9. Did you have an armed protection team with you for Sparkbrook?
  10. I was driving past on my way to Waitrose.

    Edit : Just realised this is in CA, please forgive me.
  11. I think you are right on the money there.
  12. Should we trust Pakistan (ISI)?


    Nor did the US before launching this operation.

    The US should demand, for continued financial & military support, the dismantling of ISI and an investigation of those elements within who have colluded with the Taliban and AQ.

    If the septics find useful data rather than donkey porn on obl's hard drives, one would hope this will assist in the US demands for change within the Pakistan military /security apparatus. In the long term this would be for Pakistan’s own benefit.

    However, Pakistan has never been a homogenous country that has always taken decisions antithetical to its own best future.

    An interesting piece on TIME’s website.
    America and Pakistan After Bin Laden: Still Frenemies | Swampland
  13. They have nukes.
    They have a big military.
    They allow us (the US and others) to stage through their country as well as providing a vital LOC.
    We definitely do not trust them......but it's useful to be friendly.

    What did Sun-tzu say about friends and enemies and their proximity?
  14. Although we have thousands [millions?] of Pakistanis* living in the UK and although we give loads of aid to Pakistan - our trusting Pakistan should be extremely limited. We can be all smiles and handshakes at a Diplomatic level. But behind closed doors, and in the field we should doubt them and double check everything. Any Intell gathered should be hoarded with very limited sharing with Pakistan indeed. They will always be considered dubious partners after this.

    Even if they were to launch an investigation into who had any knowledge of OBL, or dealings with him. We couldn't totally trust their findings.

    *caveat, ect. Those who regard Pakistan as their homeland or country of origin.

    Note: This is a personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of HMG, ARRSE, or that nice Pakastani with the chip shop, ok.
  15. The areas that needed to be checked and the amount of surveillance required to confirm that Bin Laden was in his compound or somewhere else couldn't have been completed without a bit of help from local assets and some Government/ISI involvement.

    A Pakistani politician was recently killed by one of his own security detail for saying nice things about Christians. If the ISI and Pakistani have helped the US in anyway I doubt they would be shouting it out from the top of a mosque. Anyway; one down - **** loads to go!