Should there be mandatory training to have children?

Should there be a minimum qualification level in care and wellbeing for anyone about to be a parent?

  • Yes

    Votes: 70 88.6%
  • No

    Votes: 9 11.4%

  • Total voters
    79

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LE
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I'm not exaggerating, comments from the same high achieving child less than 2 months apart:
Before Feb half term: Why are you teaching us this science crap, we should be learning something useful about bank accounts.
After Feb half term: Why are we wasting time about bank accounts, you should be teaching us about stuff that will be in our exams.
I do sympathise.

When I left the mob I had brief aspirations to become a technology teacher.

I’ll be honest, it was almost 100% fuelled by that programme teachers. It looked a laugh and the large amounts of time off were very attractive.

This was back when they were talking about troops to teachers. There was a lot of guff about fast routes for ex forces to get into teaching.

From what I understand none of these came to fruition and it was basically the exact same route that everyone else has to take unless you already had a degree.

Anyway at the time it looked good so I applied for a job in a West London secondary school as a technology technician. I’d be that bloke in a blue lab coat who fixes all the machines and shit. It was **** money but a foot in the door and the head teacher promised me some help to get into the troops to teachers thing when it came about.

I lasted two weeks there.

Basically from day 1 I was expected to act as a stand in teacher to cover sickness and gapping. The kids were little cnuts. Half of them didn’t even speak English and there were two serious assaults on teachers including a stabbing while I was there.

All the teachers hated it and the general consensus amongst them was get out while I still could. The best bloke there was in the process of being sacked because he’d deviated from the curriculum while the OFSTED inspectors were in.

I was present at a parents evening and most of the parents didn’t speak English at all. You had kids acting as translators.

“Your son is mental and I caught him attacking another kid with a metal file.”

In Somalian:

“Teacher says I have been a very good boy and I am top of the class. You should buy me a new bike.”
 
I have a lifelong distrust of dogs. Playing in my local rec, an Alsatian, the chav dog of choice on a 70s council estate, ran 30 yards to attack me.

My fault apparently for being a seven year old.
I had an almost identical experience like that too.

Never learnt how to be comfortable around dogs. It ended one relationship in my twenties as she was never apart from her Jack Russel psycho shit machine.

In my 30s I began to work with detector dogs, who are exclusively gun dog breeds. I found myself totally at ease with these animals and enjoy their company.
 
I do sympathise.
Don't, I'm at a good state school. The worst I have to deal with is someone, usually a girl, sending nude photos and the occasional scuffle that makes minion slapfighting look dangerous. There was an occasion I broke up a fight last year but sadly missed the opportunity to bang their heads together.

I do sympathise.Basically from day 1 I was expected to act as a stand in teacher to cover sickness and gapping. The kids were little cnuts. Half of them didn’t even speak English and there were two serious assaults on teachers including a stabbing while I was there.

All the teachers hated it and the general consensus amongst them was get out while I still could. The best bloke there was in the process of being sacked because he’d deviated from the curriculum while the OFSTED inspectors were in.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

The best teachers in terms of engagement, enjoyment and general learning are often the daft old ones who have been teaching for 40 years and just don't give a toss about the relevant guidelines. Funnily enough, the ones with leeway to do things the way they want often get the best results and, more importantly, have produced a love of their subject rather than just a way to pass a ******* tick box exam.

Not that I'm bitter.
 
I don't care for your attitude. **** off.
WTF! Are you on the blob or something? You don't care for my attitude? Sorry, I didn't realise that you are a split arrse princess.
Please except my most sincere apologies love. Now suck my cock, you whore.
 
I'm not in the habit of making remarks about welfare systems half way round the world that I don't understand and that are misrepresented by your media. How about you do the same?
Nope, I am in the habit of asking these types of questions. It is how we learn and grow.
Your media does a bang up job of life out here, I least have the decency to ask for real feedback.
 

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Ladies and Gentlemen of Arrse, can I just clarify that The Gimp has NEVER given me one!
What happens in arse stays in arse.
 

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I have a lifelong distrust of dogs. Playing in my local rec, an Alsatian, the chav dog of choice on a 70s council estate, ran 30 yards to attack me.

My fault apparently for being a seven year old.
Lardy will back this up, but mostly through work I've been bitten and/or attacked by many, many dogs.
However I've never been bitten by the same dog on a second occasion.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
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I have been following this thread with interest.
I do wonder if a form of parental training should be linked to benefits. Non attendance or refusing to engage would result in no cash.
I deal with families with 'issues' on a regular basis and it is very hard to remain compassionate. Some really do try and do their best despite very, very poor circumstances. Some on the other hand are nasty, conniving and have no thoughts for their offspring beyond what they can get from the state due to junior's 'problems'.

I am also a school governor and the number of children in the school whose parents have self diagnosed various forms of autism is rising every year. While access to children's mental health services is not easy around here, the number of parents who refuse to, or drop out of, engagement with CAHMS is worrying high. If parents don't hear what they want to hear they refuse to believe it. It appears to be a form of Munchhausens-by-proxy.
It's also interesting the number of children who we've had through foster care who have had various reported diagnoses of digestive issues, in terms of intolerances, reflux, etc, who seem perfectly capable of eating a regular home cooked diet without any difficulty at all.
 
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That I'm not.
I sincerely hope your specialist subject is something simple like blue crayons.
My specilaist subjects in no particular order could be: -
Biochemistry/microbiology
Military history
The rules of American College Football
David Hume and empirical philosophy
Solving the Times Crossword [not one of my stronger ones but I do finish it occassionally]
cGMP regulations for sterile liquids manufacture
AFV recognition
 

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