Should the UK

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Mr_Tigger

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#2
I would greatly favour a near carbon copy of the US Bill of Rights. However in practice should we ever get a new Bill of Rights it would be 2,000 pages long, it would be written by centre-left politicos and simply codify the welfare state forever and a day.

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(34) You have the right to free everything.
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#3
Have a formal constitution and Bill O'Rights?

Why would we want to go for our morning walk wearing a dinner jacket with some Irish bloke called William?
 
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Mr_Tigger

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#4
Why would we want to go for our morning walk wearing a dinner jacket with some Irish bloke called William?
I congratulate you Sir. You had to go around the houses to make that work but you just pulled it off.
 
#5
I congratulate you Sir. You had to go around the houses to make that work but you just pulled it off.
why, thank you sir! It's amazing how some boiled potatos ,sugar , yeast and water can help improve the brain's capacity for lateral thinking
 
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Mr_Tigger

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#8
1689 Bill of Rights

No standing army in peace time without parliament's consent. Freedom of speech. King minds his own business and such.
 

Brotherton Lad

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Kit Reviewer
#9
1689 Bill of Rights

No standing army in peace time without parliament's consent. Freedom of speech. King minds his own business and such.
The Glorious Revolution. I think we do just fine in a bumbling along sort of way.

Mind how ye go. Move down the bus. More tea, vicar? Don't mind if I do. Turned out nice today.
 
#10
Elaborate kind sir
And thereupon the said Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons, pursuant to their respective letters and elections, being now assembled in a full and free representative of this nation, taking into their most serious consideration the best means for attaining the ends aforesaid, do in the first place (as their ancestors in like case have usually done) for the vindicating and asserting their ancient rights and liberties declare:

That the pretended power of suspending the laws or the execution of laws by regal authority without consent of Parliament is illegal;
That the pretended power of dispensing with laws or the execution of laws by regal authority, as it hath been assumed and exercised of late, is illegal;
That the commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiastical Causes, and all other commissions and courts of like nature, are illegal and pernicious;
That levying money for or to the use of the Crown by pretence of prerogative, without grant of Parliament, for longer time, or in other manner than the same is or shall be granted, is illegal;
That it is the right of the subjects to petition the king, and all commitments and prosecutions for such petitioning are illegal;
That the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace, unless it be with consent of Parliament, is against law;
That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;
That election of members of Parliament ought to be free;
That the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament;
That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted;
That jurors ought to be duly impanelled and returned, and jurors which pass upon men in trials for high treason ought to be freeholders;
That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;
And that for redress of all grievances, and for the amending, strengthening and preserving of the laws, Parliaments ought to be held frequently.
 

Grumblegrunt

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#11
can we have the right to a set of bears arms and country militias?
 
#12
And thereupon the said Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons, pursuant to their respective letters and elections, being now assembled in a full and free representative of this nation, taking into their most serious consideration the best means for attaining the ends aforesaid, do in the first place (as their ancestors in like case have usually done) for the vindicating and asserting their ancient rights and liberties declare:

That the pretended power of suspending the laws or the execution of laws by regal authority without consent of Parliament is illegal;
That the pretended power of dispensing with laws or the execution of laws by regal authority, as it hath been assumed and exercised of late, is illegal;
That the commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiastical Causes, and all other commissions and courts of like nature, are illegal and pernicious;
That levying money for or to the use of the Crown by pretence of prerogative, without grant of Parliament, for longer time, or in other manner than the same is or shall be granted, is illegal;
That it is the right of the subjects to petition the king, and all commitments and prosecutions for such petitioning are illegal;
That the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in time of peace, unless it be with consent of Parliament, is against law;
That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;
That election of members of Parliament ought to be free;
That the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament;
That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted;
That jurors ought to be duly impanelled and returned, and jurors which pass upon men in trials for high treason ought to be freeholders;
That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegal and void;
And that for redress of all grievances, and for the amending, strengthening and preserving of the laws, Parliaments ought to be held frequently.
sounds a bit archiaic
 
#15
Leave well alone, dont let the government start dreaming up more shit to cow us, things are bad enough as it is with the friggin europeans snapping at our heels.
 
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EScotia

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#16
I have no problem with a formal constitution, but any "Bill of Rights" should be fully compensated for with a "Bill of Responsibilities"
 

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