Should the professionally unemployed be barred from voting?

Should the professionally unemployed be barred from voting?

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#1
They contribute nothing to society and there are now so many of the leeches that the countries politics now beholding to the non-contributory 'I iz intitled, innit' classes who don't and won't work.
 
#4
If you do not contribute to society then you have no say in how we are governed as far as i see. You want a vote then you have to put in for at least 12 months continuous contributions to the country.
 
#5
I disagree. They giro-junkies have an equal right as everyone else. It's a life-style choice they they've made. To be fair to them, it's not their fault. The government has made it easy for them to spunge, so fair play to them.

Not how I'd want to live my life, but hey, you can't please everyone.
 

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#6
'No representation without taxation...' I wouldn't worry too much you won't find many of them in the voting booths anyway - too much like hard work.

One of the problems we have in the UK is that a significant part of the population is cut off from society. They feel that they have no part or stake in the common weal. They don't pay tax, they don't understand how things work their only contact with society is scrounging. I not sure how we change that - I would favour a sort of National Civil Service in return for benefits. I would also favour much more local democracy - sheriffs etc.
 
#7
I would suspect the only thing most of the kind of people you are referring to vote in is X facor (or pop idol, Brtain's Got Talent, Big Brother etc etc). A lot of them probably couldn't name the prime minister.
 
#8
Yes - next question please.

PS: Maybe castrated into the bargain; in the best interests and general well-being of the nation?

PPS: No question of an 'Intelligence Test' I suppose?

PPPS: No thought not - pity though. 600+ Tory MPs appeals to me.
 
#9
smudge67 said:
I disagree. They giro-junkies have an equal right as everyone else. It's a life-style choice they they've made. To be fair to them, it's not their fault. The government has made it easy for them to spunge, so fair play to them.

Not how I'd want to live my life, but hey, you can't please everyone.

OK, can you pay my share of taxes I pay to support the welfare leeches for me?
 
#10
Temple said:
I would suspect the only thing most of the kind of people you are referring to vote in is X facor (or pop idol, Brtain's Got Talent, Big Brother etc etc). A lot of them probably couldn't name the prime minister.

True, but all our politicians are falling over themselves to go grovelling at the welfare scroungers feet promising to them more and guranteeting no cuts that would affect their state funded slacker lifestyles
 
#11
How about the idea that only the wealth creators should be able to vote?

Allot of people here are banging on as if it is wealth they have produced which is being spent on social welfare.

Well it isn't, and I don't think people who are not involved in creating wealth should have a say in how it is distributed.

How do like them apples?
 
#12
Micawber said:
How about the idea that only the wealth creators should be able to vote?

Allot of people here are banging on as if it is wealth they have produced which is being spent on social welfare.

Well it isn't, and I don't think people who are not involved in creating wealth should have a say in how it is distributed.

How do like them apples?


Ugg, Tarzan not like!! :p
 

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#13
Micawber said:
How about the idea that only the wealth creators should be able to vote?

Allot of people here are banging on as if it is wealth they have produced which is being spent on social welfare.

Well it isn't, and I don't think people who are not involved in creating wealth should have a say in how it is distributed.

How do like them apples?
Most people on ARRSE contribute to society in different way other than as 'true' tax payers.

BTB by wealth creators to you mean only the chaps who own the factories or do you also include those who work in them?

How would you classify airline pilots or Doctors?
 
#14
Micawber said:
How about the idea that only the wealth creators should be able to vote?

Allot of people here are banging on as if it is wealth they have produced which is being spent on social welfare.

Well it isn't, and I don't think people who are not involved in creating wealth should have a say in how it is distributed.

How do like them apples?
Define “wealth creators.”

Servicemen, policemen, doctors etc. do not create wealth directly, but how much wealth would get created if they did not exist?
 

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#15
Could someone clever point me towards the point of this thread that is either Army related or of geo-political significance?
 
#16
My point is this - we seem to have a thread looking to decide who should not be allowed to vote which, by extension, leads to who should vote?

Can you, or anyone else on here, run off 5,000 words defining and explaining the difference between long and short money?

I certainly can't, so why should I be allowed to cast a vote about economic policy when I don't know the first thing about it?

And my point about whose money is it, well there's the rub. Soldiers, binmen and heart surgeons are all just overheads.

It is the entrepreneurs like Branson et al who create the money, the rest is just moving around their product and why should anyone else have a say in where it goes?

It's a good point about factory workers but that is rather dodgy ground because my map of the area is marked 'beware - here be marxism'.

But what about thick people? Where's the value to society in their vote?

Graduates only perhaps?

All I am trying to point out is that instead of arrogantly proclaiming 'you are on the dole therefore you can't vote' a few non producers might want to spend a bit of time justifying their own place at the table.
 
#17
Wasn't the "stakeholders only can vote" the basis of the policy in Norn Iorn where to vote in local elections you had to own property, meaning that a large proportion of the catholic/nationalist population were disenfranchised. And we all know how that particular can of worms played out.

Disenfranchise prisoners in jail / on probation / clinically insane, yes. Everyone else, it's a basic human right, and to my mind, it should be compulsory to vote.
 
#18
flamingo said:
it's a basic human right.
I've always wondered why people regard the right to vote as a human right. Democracy isn't always the best way to run a goverment.
 
#19
Semper_Flexibilis said:
smudge67 said:
I disagree. They giro-junkies have an equal right as everyone else. It's a life-style choice they they've made. To be fair to them, it's not their fault. The government has made it easy for them to spunge, so fair play to them.

Not how I'd want to live my life, but hey, you can't please everyone.

OK, can you pay my share of taxes I pay to support the welfare leeches for me?
You can suck my plums, I pay enough tax as it is.
 
#20
Why not only land owners being able to vote? That way, only those who have invested in the country would have a say in how it is run. Just think, nobody from Cornwall could vote except the Prince of Wales. Probably only 5 or 6 in the whole of Scotland and they'd obviously vote Tory. And, of course, Westminster would only be the Duke thereof. Wow! This is a radical, modern idea that probably hasn't been thought of before. Just think how many votes the Queen would have in various constituencies. Don't tell the other women, though. Next thing you know they'll be throwing themselves under horses or somesuch rubbish. Bit like this thread, really.
 

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