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Should I join up?

#1
Hi all,

I've been considering joining up for some time now and hoping you can give me some advice which will help me finally make up my mind...

As a quick background, I'm 31 years old, have a first class honours degree, speak another European language and have several years of experience working for a large multinational company abroad. Over the past few months I've become more and more disillusioned with my chosen path and have come to something of a crossroads in my career where I feel I can either:

- continue down my present path
- switch to another 'graduate career'
- follow my heart and join up

Due to my age, I don't believe I will be eligible to join up as an officer and I would therefore be looking at joining as a recruit. My family (and most of my friends) consider this to be a ludicrous idea and think that I will be severely limiting my future opportunities. My main concern is that if I join up and decide not to make it my career for the next 20 years, it may then be hard for me to 'justify' my decision to future potential employers. Could you please give me some advice? Do you believe the army could be viewed negatively on my CV or is all forces experience viewed positively? Have any of you had a similar experience?

If I do decide to join, I would be doing it with the intention of staying in for a full career, however should I find that forces life isn't what I expected I don't want to jeopardise my future career.

All advice gratefully received...
 
#2
Forces experience will generally look good on your CV - if anything its a conversation point during your interview!

If you can speak another language, you're obviously intelligent why not try the Intelligence Corp? Or there are other roles that as a Soldier your qualifications can be put to good use. Not too sure on the upper age limits for an Officer, no doubt someone will set you straight soon but I think you are over it.

(I'm not Int Corp by the way, just pushing the idea out there).
 
#4
Id think it would be a plan to register your interest at an ACIO/AFCO given your age, and think it through while the ball is rolling.
 
#5
The army does a job trial service where you can keep your current job and train as an Officer/Soldier. If you enjoy the work trial you can then move across to the Regulars Army usually. If you don't like it then there is nothing lost and you still get to put some Military service on your CV
LOOK HERE age up to 33
 
#6
Thanks for the replies.

I have considered the TA, however as I'm currently based abroad this isn't presently an option. I don't really want to quit my job at the moment either with the way things are with the economy. It would therefore be an all or nothing decision - regulars or nothing
 

Forastero

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#7
adouglasmhor said:
I don't think joining as an OR is for you mate, depending on your degree they may let you join as an Officer at aged over 28 years.
All candidates must be 29 or under on commencement of officer training therefore he is ineligible for RMAS.
 
#8
Some one needs to mention that you can also join as an OR then ask, nag, moan, get recommended for officer training... for you sran, that could be an option, just join a capbadge you may be challenged in, if your intellect ( ? ) goes to waste you may feel you have no place in the forces and get out before your time has come. look at the army site for jobs that suit your age / quals. you will find there are some very technical roles for the right people...
 
#11
discontented said:
Some one needs to mention that you can also join as an OR then ask, nag, moan, get recommended for officer training...
You still need to be under 29 years of age otherwise it's the LE route.
 
#12
cheers forastero, I have genuinely learn't something from this site ;)

Sran, if you do decide to join, make sure you get the best use of your skills and you should be a happy (but probably less than well paid) chappy
 
#13
Also if you have been living outside of the UK for a period of 5 years or more (in some cases only 3) then you will find that you will not be accepted for a lot of the jobs that require security clearance and if you do it can be a long drawn out affair trying to get clearance for you ;)

You need to be enlisted into the Army before you are 32 years and 11 months too so you need to decide what you want to do ;) :D

Also a full career for you would only allow you to serve to 55 years of age and that is if they allow you to serve that long, bear in mind that the engagement system (short/full/long) is based on performance and also needs of the service, the only thing that is guaranteed is that you can serve up to 12 years after that it is by applying and recommendation, even more so with older applicants ;)
 
#15
Forastero said:
adouglasmhor said:
I don't think joining as an OR is for you mate, depending on your degree they may let you join as an Officer at aged over 28 years.
All candidates must be 29 or under on commencement of officer training therefore he is ineligible for RMAS.
Note 3 on this link. http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/howdoijoin/canijoin/Pages/EntryRequirements.aspx

3. Higher age limits for those joining as professionally qualified or specialist entrants.

Please do not correct me again, I did say depending on your degree, I thought depending on work history would not need to be stated.
 
#16
I'll clarify this for you, PQOs (vets, chaplains, dentists, doctors, nurses and physios) attend the four week course at RMAS and are not subject to the age restrictions. All other aspiring candidates over the age of 29 will only be considered if there is an overriding operational requirement for a specific post within the Army that cannot be filled by any other serving person. This happens about once every thousand years. Having been involved in officer recruiting and OCAC in the past, I have a fairly good idea of what I'm talking about. This particular chap does not appear to fit the criteria therefore he is ineligible to apply for officer training.

I'll correct you as much as I like mate; avoid the patronising tone.
 
#18
Thanks all for your comments and thanks to Slick for your suggestion with the RAF. That was an option that until now, I'd not give any consideration to. Having checked their website, they appear to have a Linguist role which may be worth thinking about.

Forastero has confirmed what I originally thought - that I'm over the age limit to join as an Army officer so no surprises there.

It's certainly given me something to think about anyway, so thanks again for your replies
 
#19
With regard to your original question, most employers view service in the Armed Forces favourably, some probably couldn't give two hoots and some may not (openly) consider you. However what you must understand is that reeling off op tours, courses and acronyms won't mean a thing to them and will likely glaze and skip onto something they understand like your degree or your previous employment. You will have to tailor your military experience to something that a civ employer can understand and slot into his mental framework. Not difficult but something that needs to be done nonetheless. Of course, this all very much depends upon which areas of employment you're interested in - if you know what I mean.

As for officer or soldier, that question has been answered already but if you really do have an itch that needs to be scratched, then I would suggest that you consider the Int Corps as a possible option. These guys have lots of soldiers with degrees as well as speaking foreign languages - if that's something you're interested in. Bear in mind that military language courses are somewhat different than civ courses though.

Anyway, ARRSE won't really be able to answer the questions for you so the best thing to do would be to get some face time with a recruiter next time you're in the UK. Might put your mind at rest if nothing else.
 
#20
Forastero said:
I'll clarify this for you, PQOs (vets, chaplains, dentists, doctors, nurses and physios) attend the four week course at RMAS and are not subject to the age restrictions. All other aspiring candidates over the age of 29 will only be considered if there is an overriding operational requirement for a specific post within the Army that cannot be filled by any other serving person. This happens about once every thousand years. Having been involved in officer recruiting and OCAC in the past, I have a fairly good idea of what I'm talking about. This particular chap does not appear to fit the criteria therefore he is ineligible to apply for officer training.

I'll correct you as much as I like mate; avoid the patronising tone.
fight, fight, fight!

are the legal professions not included in that as well
and IIRC the nurse route has to be with a nursing degree
also for the chaplain route, how'd that work?

most vicars/priests(anglican or catholic) etc are ordained,
but different for islam/sikh etc and then the 1001 different non-conformist faiths - baptists/methodists/sally army/presbytarian etc
would that all be tied in with a degree or can i use my certificate that says i'm a minister in the church of elvis?
 

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