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Should i join the paras

Decwba18

Swinger
At 16, time is on your side, hun. You have several years to crack on with the plumbing course, get the quals then build up a successful career in the Army with something to fall back on.

One of the stupidest mistakes I made was swapping a trade for a degree, thinking the grass would be greener on the other side. Turns out the people with trades are doing pretty well for themselves.
At 16, time is on your side, hun. You have several years to crack on with the plumbing course, get the quals then build up a successful career in the Army with something to fall back on.

One of the stupidest mistakes I made was swapping a trade for a degree, thinking the grass would be greener on the other side. Turns out the people with trades are doing pretty well for themselves.
I dont want to be a tradesman is my point. I dont mind doing plumbing in the mean time but i want to join the army. I dont want to be a tradesman in there ill just get bored. And also it doesnt have that buzz to it to say “i was a plumber in the army”compared to “i was a paratrooper”. (No offence to any plumbers in the army)
 

Decwba18

Swinger
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1. You apply for PARA Regt. Endless waiting for a vacancy at Harrogate. Stay at square 1 for.... how long?
2. You get a place, but fail physical/Pre-Para/vw during Phase1. Go back to square 1.
3. Join the Arm, in RE. Pick up Cbt Engr plus Plumbing. You get a bit more dosh. Maybe get a sigs course in. Get a couple years experience under your belt and then take a look at life, take a look at the wider Army.
a) you discover something you had never before considered/heard of and want it - try, it nothing to lose.
b) you still want PARA. Do P Coy.
i) if you pass, spotty dog. You can serve with an Airborne unit, and consider Pathfinder or transfer to PARA Regt
ii) if you fail, you haven't set your career back. You are still 'in', still earning, and have an idea of the physical standard required. You will know why you really failed (inadequate fitness/prep, injury, did not want it enough, laziness). The first two, if you want it enough, you'll have another go and succeed.

Hopefully that makes sense, its essentially mapping out the options and outcomes. Probably some I have missed.
Seems alot better when you put it like that and u can transfer regt? I think its the plumbing aspect thats putting me off. Combat engineers seems like a buzz and sommet id be up for. Basically i dont want to do something someone on civvi street could do like plumbing. Wanna stand out from the rest of dossers im surrounded by if you get me.
 
You will not be spending all your time plumping. Actually, you'll probably spend very little time doing plumbing post trade course.
In the same vein, you wont do many jumps in Para Regt, either. You will spend a significant amount of time being cold wet and tired, or hot sweaty and tired.

Why rush, you are 16 not 26.

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Every Engineer trains as a soldier, a Combat Engineer, then there trade course. You will be a Class 3 Eng before you start a plumbing course.

"Combat Engineers" seems like a buzz? Because it sounds exciting. It isn't, not really. MGB build (bridging) is a mare, MGB gallops even worse. Be thankful you dont have HGOB anymore. Minefield breaching in full CBRN on a hot August day is a chore, too.

You like digging? Cbt Engr dig holes. Lots of holes. You may also "kick tin" - laying down PSP runways and taxi ways. Water points are casual. Watermanship was fun - cutting about Hawley lake with a pair of Johnson HP40s on a Rigid Raider. On tour, you'll possibly put a lot of these skills to use. And very occasionally, your trade. Moreso as a Plant Op, less so as a brickie/sparkie/chippy.

Blowing shit up is fun though.
 
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I dont want to be a tradesman is my point. I dont mind doing plumbing in the mean time but i want to join the army. I dont want to be a tradesman in there ill just get bored. And also it doesnt have that buzz to it to say “i was a plumber in the army”compared to “i was a paratrooper”. (No offence to any plumbers in the army)

In the Army, you will always be a soldier first, tradesman/specialist second. You're right, it doesn't quite have the same ring to it as 'paratrooper'.
 
If you join the Royal Engineers you will become a Sapper and a Gentleman other units only have men
 
I was in the army back in the seventies so it was a lot different back then but this is my view. I have a background in civvy street in the building industry.

Plumbing is a good trade to learn. Especially if you get into the gas side of it. The money is very good for gas registered plumbers although you won’t be skint if you don’t do gas, gas is where you will earn the same money as a chartered accountant.

You can do the training for it though at any time. For example when you leave the army, they may even put you through some of the relevant training for gas plumbing as part of your demob. Others with more recent and relevant experience will tell you about the possibilities of that sort of stuff.

My point would be, if you want to go for infantry, just do it. para or otherwise. You can pick up on a trade when you leave. A lot could happen while you are in the army. There will be possible promotion prospects and you may find something that grabs your attention and your career direction while you are serving but the plumbing will still be an option when you eventually leave.

Another point is while you are serving, if you get the chance to brush up your educational qualifications, grab any opportunities that you can. A degree level educational qualification will open doors on the job front that won’t open if you don’t have it.

Soldiering in a battalion will take up your time with the various commitments that will be presented to every soldier in the unit. Something notable will probably be going on every year and with pre operations training and post operations winding down, you will find plenty to do but keep an eye open and inquire about education development opportunities.

Life in a battalion will also see you enjoying a quite lively social life. Single soldiers team up with their platoon mates for trips to pubs and stuff and even if you meet a partner and move into married quarters, the job will see you and your colleagues living together like family in certain scenarios doing stuff where you will absolutely rely on each other to make it all go well without injury etc. It creates exceptionally close friends when your lives can depend on covering each other’s backs.

Do keep in mind though that soldiering is a younger persons game and as you get older, you will need to think about the future and maybe that plumbing etc.
 
Resttlement has changed massively - no more 28days course, plus 1-2 day briefings/courses as you can get, it all comes out of the 28 days.

9 month plumbing course in RE vs 28 day "instant plumber just add water" (excuse the pun) - go for the trade.

The Army will owe you nothing. So, use it to your advantage. Get a trade out the RE, transfer to PARA Regt, Just dont tell anyone your game plan.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
How employable would you be based on a short military course and then never using it for x years?

If you want to be a paratrooper, go and do it. If you want to be a plumber later, then train for it then. You just need to factor it into your exit plan.

Don’t tap dance around going RE and then hoping you can transfer later, and then hoping again that someone will be interested in basic skills learnt but not practiced for years. It is a whole lot of unknowns with zero certainty.
 
Resttlement has changed massively - no more 28days course, plus 1-2 day briefings/courses as you can get, it all comes out of the 28 days.

9 month plumbing course in RE vs 28 day "instant plumber just add water" (excuse the pun) - go for the trade.

The Army will owe you nothing. So, use it to your advantage. Get a trade out the RE, transfer to PARA Regt, Just dont tell anyone your game plan.

Getting a ticket for any trade is one thing, racking up the required time on tools and experience is quite another, which civvy employers are well aware of.

Very few army tradesmen, particularly in the RE, get much more than an aquaint of their trade.

A barracks full of artisans will still call in civvy contractors to do all the maintenance work of every trade.
 
How employable would you be based on a short military course and then never using it for x years?

If you want to be a paratrooper, go and do it. If you want to be a plumber later, then train for it then. You just need to factor it into your exit plan.

Don’t tap dance around going RE and then hoping you can transfer later, and then hoping again that someone will be interested in basic skills learnt but not practiced for years. It is a whole lot of unknowns with zero certainty.

And zero satisfaction.
 
Getting a ticket for any trade is one thing, racking up the required time on tools and experience is quite another, which civvy employers are well aware of.

Very few army tradesmen, particularly in the RE, get much more than an aquaint of their trade.

A barracks full of artisans will still call in civvy contractors to do all the maintenance work of every trade.
I dont disagree, but a nine month course is better than the "instant tradesman" resettlement course.
 

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The_Duke

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MOD comment - week long bans for scarbrough and Stacker for consistently breaching recruiting board rules. Anyone else want to join them?
 

Decwba18

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