Shorter Rifles

#1
Anyone know if its possible to get a "shorter" L85? I know the carbine is around the corner but I have a new soldier who is short, but so keen and hard working, it is sad to watch them struggle with shooting. They are stretched right out and can't reach to support the rifle with their left hand.

Any constructive ideas?

Thanks in advance

WH
 
#2
Have you tried hanging him out a window by his hands for a couple of days at a time. This in the long term will lengthen his arms and increase his upper body strength and hand grip. Also you could trying to shorten his arms using an old saw and a sewing machine.
 
#3
ISTR that the SLR came in different lengths but the SA80 cannot because the recoil rod assy runs all the way to the butt

edit The carbine version would also have the same but length and I assume furniture length for the same reason
 
#4
Lippstadt 1981.

27 RA had a duty mong. He was a real midgit, miggit.... small fuckker.

All he ever did was polish the 25 pounders and the bronze cannons. God knows how he passed basic with a SLR?

Train the little one to use a false arm inside their smock arm or use a pistol?

Knew a siggy who had his shooting eye - well shot out (playing paint-ball off all things) . He was allowed to soldier on with a 9 milli as a personal weapon. Funny as hell seeing him trying to do any patrolling with his pistol drawn.
 
#5
Get a very big vice and put the rifle lengthways, with the flash eliminator at one end and the buttpiece at the other. Twist the handle until the rifle is squeezed to the required length.

Take it to the armourer and show him - he'll be impressed! :twisted:
 
#8
Paint him brown, feed him curry and issue him with a kukri...no one will notice and he can sneak around decapitating Japanese in the silent hours...oh sorry, you wanted helpful suggestions only? Well what are you doing posting on HERE??
 
#10
Can't do anything to alter the length of the rifle unfortunately.

Perhaps a bit of alternative weapon holding may do the trick. From the standing position, I rest the pistol grip on my left hand, which is tucked in nice and tight to my webbing.

As the rifle is pretty well balanced, I get pretty good results with this. Not that I'm a shortarse you understand...
 
#11
Cadets & girlies manage the rifle o.k., so the bloke must have arms about 12" long! Make him move his legs around to the left a bit if hes prone - thats the traditional remedy for a shortarrse.
 

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#14
She is very short, however she does try very hard. I think webbibg etc and CBA push the rifle further away hence not a problem for ACF.
 
#15
Perhaps she chose the wrong career. I believe Billy Smart is currently recruiting, but if she doesn't like custard and tri-cycles, there are vacancies in "Willy Wonka" (the musical) for Oompah Loompahs.
 
#16
Cuddles said:
Paint him brown, feed him curry and issue him with a kukri...no one will notice and he can sneak around decapitating Japanese in the silent hours...oh sorry, you wanted helpful suggestions only? Well what are you doing posting on HERE??
I am beginning to think you are right :roll: Its nice to know that in the most professional Army in the world so many try to help.
 
#19
The rifle is pretty short as it is. I think your soldier will just have to struggle on and make do. if as keen as you say they'll manage.
 
#20
Surely if she cannot engage them with the rifle she could hide until last safe moment, possibly under a jerry-can or behind a crisp wrapper, and leap onto their shoe-upper before delivering a disabling bite to the ankle bone?

There is no way anyone of normal medical fitness, graded FE, can not use the SA80, even if webbing, CBA or a nice bag of knitting patterns from Asda taken into account. Does this soldier have normal upper body development? Can she complete her APFA or BPFA or whatever they call it these days? Is she letting herself down in the appearance naked category of scoring?

Helpful, in the most professional Army in the world (retired) kind of way!
 

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